What Do Each Of You Think About The Next Elections?

reflechissez · 2018-08-10T00:50:17.371Z

NebraskaFootball:

Yakshi:

It’s difficult not to be optimistic. I’d have to throw out all of the polling first, as well as recent results. Easy enough to do for some, but I haven’t reached their level of enlightenment yet.

I look at it from a pragmatic and logical assessment. The hard data suggests voter registration for Republicans in serious decline. While significantly on the rise with Democrats. That means the GOP tent is shrinking, leaving behind a strong supportive base for Trump and Trump candidates, but in smaller numbers than what existed previously. Couple this downward trend within the GOP and upward trend for Democrats, with the enthusiasm gap shown across all of the special elections since the 2016 General Election, and it is hard to envision a scenario where the Democrats do not garner enough seats to reclaim at least the House. The question now becomes by what margin? Which ultimately will not matter, as it is simple majority rule there.

Wouldn’t it be ironic if the election of trump caused a viable third-party to rise from the ashes?

NebraskaFootball · 2018-08-10T11:51:31.552Z

reflechissez:

Wouldn’t it be ironic if the election of trump caused a viable third-party to rise from the ashes?

Ironic and amazing. I’ve always felt we needed a good and viable third and fourth party option to the current two-party system, which I feel is massively broken and does a general disservice to our political system.

adroit · 2018-08-10T12:00:20.538Z

Physics_Hunter:

I won’t go too far out on the limb, but I will say this generally.

My job takes me to cities and meetings with lots of PhD types. The overt hatred of Trump there is glaring.

My leisure and family visits take me out into fly-over country. Those people are out partying like it’s 1999 this summer. It is shocking the amount of vacationers, bikers, boaters, campers… that I see.

I drove through a couple of industrial parks that I knew as a kid, there are businesses in every little building, and about 1/4th of them had skill specific help wanted signs.

The Dimocrats gave us 8 lost years, now people are loving the return of that three letter word “J O B S”. And with all that the Dims are lurching left to Socialism???

I am truly hoping that it is morning in America, again.

Can you count how many jobs have been added compared to years in Obama’s second term. Thanks

wonderingrover · 2018-08-10T12:00:48.514Z

Joanne:

If I lived in Texas I’d really have to hold my nose when voting for Cruz. His pandering and throwing away his principles to gain Trump’s favor has been sickening, especially the way Trump went after Cruz’s wife and then the insane accusation about Ted’s father being mixed up with Oswald.

He’s even pandering to the Infowars crowd by taking Alex’s side and wanting Trump to come and campaign for him.

Of course I agree with Cruz on most issues, which is why he’d get my vote, but I sure don’t like the guy personally.

Same here. I actually voted for Cruz in the 2016 primary. After he started pandering to Trump, I began to regret that vote. I now wish I had voted for one of the many other fine candidates in the Republican primary that year.

While I still agree with most of his positions policy - wise, I’d REALLY have to hold my nose to vote for him now that he has the Trump stain.

NuffSaid · 2018-08-10T12:00:59.265Z

How does he know this, besides the flatulence that comes out his rear-end he claims is truth?

wonderingrover · 2018-08-10T12:04:17.270Z

NebraskaFootball:

reflechissez:

Wouldn’t it be ironic if the election of trump caused a viable third-party to rise from the ashes?

Ironic and amazing. I’ve always felt we needed a good and viable third and fourth party option to the current two-party system, which I feel is massively broken and does a general disservice to our political system.

Sadly, I think that possibility is gone. If ever there was a year that a third party could become viable, it was 2016. Both major parties had candidates that were despised by a large percentage of the population. The timing was perfect for a 3rd party candidate to sweep in and upset the 2 major parties for the first time in my life. Yet, the voters sadly kept doing what has failed the nation for so long.

PizzaReverend · 2018-08-10T12:08:04.540Z

wonderingrover:

NebraskaFootball:

reflechissez:

Wouldn’t it be ironic if the election of trump caused a viable third-party to rise from the ashes?

Ironic and amazing. I’ve always felt we needed a good and viable third and fourth party option to the current two-party system, which I feel is massively broken and does a general disservice to our political system.

Sadly, I think that possibility is gone. If ever there was a year that a third party could become viable, it was 2016. Both major parties had candidates that were despised by a large percentage of the population. The timing was perfect for a 3rd party candidate to sweep in and upset the 2 major parties for the first time in my life. Yet, the voters sadly kept doing what has failed the nation for so long.

To be fair, that’s because the two third party candidates were an idiot, and a (possibly Russian) nut.

LouC · 2018-08-10T12:51:29.421Z

theduck1:

Dems really believe they are going to get good results come November. Not so, they’ve seen their best days & the Reps will kick their asses again…

Too bad you carried over here that silly Ignore Ban you put on me over at the last Hannity.com website. If you hadn’t you could have addressed my first response to your little thread here and you would have seen that this Dem is not all optimistic about results come November.

What a shame you can’t handle a little discourse, from me, for some reason?

Perhaps if you could you would be better informed about what some Dems really think.

LouC · 2018-08-10T13:00:22.282Z

Drs:

I wonder what the impact will be of more veterns choosing to run as Democrats.

Perhaps in the long run it will be to move America away from the perpetual state of war, UNDECLARED WAR, that we are currently wallowing in.

It has reached a point, this alleged “war on terror”, what with the insane notion of “acceptable collateral damage” and the intentional proliferation of American arms being sold to “friendly” nations who use them to target civilians that we, AMERICA, is no better and no more on any more moral ground than say Iran who our pols keep wishing to tout as aiding and abetting terrorism.

What is it when we aid and abet over and over and over again the death of untold numbers of civilians; men, women, children aka “acceptable collateral damage” and the devastation of their homes, their shops, their cities and villages?

Perhaps PROGRESSIVE veterans who make it into Congress can bring a pry bar mentality to this so called war on terror instead of the hammers now employed.

LouC · 2018-08-10T13:03:19.003Z

Drs:

Adam:

theduck1:

Dems really believe they are going to get good results come November. Not so, they’ve seen their best days & the Reps will kick their asses again…

You do understand that the Democrats picked up House and Senate seats in 2016 right? That since Trump was elected that in special elections they’ve flipped one senator, one US Representative, and 20 state legislative seats? That in the 2017 November regular election they picked up a governorship and 15 more state legislative seats?

You do understand that duck will now just close his eyes and turn up the radio while he goes to his happy place.

But in retrospect it is sad that you are so SPOT ON about what Ducky will do.

Nothing else cures Ducky getting his butt handed to him like 3 more hours of Right Wing Talk Radio.

LouC · 2018-08-10T13:06:47.077Z

biggestal99:

Right now. I have it 231-204 for the dems and peolosi plus or minus 3.

a lot of incumbents just up and quit and that never bodes well for the controlling party.

I mean the speaker of the house quit. That is just ominous bellwether.

The funniest tweet from the President will be the day after the election after a massive electoral defeat and having to deal with Nancy to get anything done.

Wonder if he will congratulate Nancy like he did to Putin.

Allan

I do so wish it would be someone other than Pelosi in the Speaker spot if we take the House on the Left in this coming election. But I am torn as to whether or not Pelosi wouldn’t be the best choice if all of that happened when it comes to a “head to head” against Donny Trump?

LouC · 2018-08-10T13:17:04.473Z

reflechissez:

NebraskaFootball:

Yakshi:

It’s difficult not to be optimistic. I’d have to throw out all of the polling first, as well as recent results. Easy enough to do for some, but I haven’t reached their level of enlightenment yet.

I look at it from a pragmatic and logical assessment. The hard data suggests voter registration for Republicans in serious decline. While significantly on the rise with Democrats. That means the GOP tent is shrinking, leaving behind a strong supportive base for Trump and Trump candidates, but in smaller numbers than what existed previously. Couple this downward trend within the GOP and upward trend for Democrats, with the enthusiasm gap shown across all of the special elections since the 2016 General Election, and it is hard to envision a scenario where the Democrats do not garner enough seats to reclaim at least the House. The question now becomes by what margin? Which ultimately will not matter, as it is simple majority rule there.

Wouldn’t it be ironic if the election of trump caused a viable third-party to rise from the ashes?

Ironic, but I don’t see it happening, even as much as I would like to.

Frankly, what I see coming for America, or that is now becoming a real possibility, is something that I never thought in my lifetime I would ever give rise to any serious consideration of, and that is either some form of revolution or new civil war, or perhaps a morphed combination of the two.

These races on Tuesday, they echoed so many other elections of late, where votes are so close, almost knife edge in the division at the polls. Then we have such an unprecedented turn of events with Trump and his wrenching up, INTENTIONALLY, wrenching up of the divisions in America, it is sort of scary to me, to see how we might be an America divided and just like the California scrub country just waiting for that one errant spark.

Then I settle down, relax, and say to myself that I am just being overly dramatic.

biggestal99 · 2018-08-10T14:53:45.553Z

LouC:

I do so wish it would be someone other than Pelosi in the Speaker spot if we take the House on the Left in this coming election. But I am torn as to whether or not Pelosi wouldn’t be the best choice if all of that happened when it comes to a “head to head” against Donny Trump?

she did okay against 43. and I want all the trump cultist complaining that she is stuffing up the works.

Allan

lulubee · 2018-08-10T15:20:57.770Z

The bottom line is that Nancy gets things done. That’s the only reason why the R’s hate her - because she is so effective.

LouC · 2018-08-10T18:00:09.144Z

lulubee:

The bottom line is that Nancy gets things done. That’s the only reason why the R’s hate her - because she is so effective.

I don’t care for her on a personal level. But yeah, she got things done. Not only that Donny would hate, just hate having to deal with her, so would ol" turtle face in the Senate.

theduck1 · 2018-08-10T18:02:23.367Z

I still take offense when jerks insult me, but I slide by their insult posts, so I have no idea what they’re saying.

AmusedObserver · 2018-08-10T18:06:10.315Z

wonderingrover:

Sadly, I think that possibility is gone. If ever there was a year that a third party could become viable, it was 2016. Both major parties had candidates that were despised by a large percentage of the population. The timing was perfect for a 3rd party candidate to sweep in and upset the 2 major parties for the first time in my life. Yet, the voters sadly kept doing what has failed the nation for so long.

Yeah, I would have liked to see someone like a Bloomberg join in and mount a serious effort; he could have self-funded the entire campaign out of his couch change. I don’t know if he could have won, but he’d certainly have had my vote vs. the other two.

Physics_Hunter · 2018-08-11T05:21:51.606Z

“skill specific”

Go find somebody else to play your single statistic game, or simply speak your mind.

We have work to do in America and no time for libs love of Obama flat lining the American economy for 8 years.

Adam · 2018-08-11T07:47:16.692Z

That is something that people don’t get. Pelosi is good at her job. I would like to see a different Democrat speaker of the house, but I so want to see Trump thank Pelosi as the Speaker at next year’s State Of the Union.

Yakshi · 2018-08-11T07:51:13.637Z

It’s funny. Everybody thinks that something good is going to happen for their team.

Yay, us!