What distinguishes Black Americans who have attained success to those who have not?

[Samm]

@Eagle-Keeper

@biggestal99

What distinguishes Black Americans who have attained success to those who have not?

Answer: the same things that white Americans have:

So you would agree with conservatives on this? Because the message and/or view from many on the left is that black Americans don’t have the same opportunities as everyone else.

Statistically speaking, if American blacks emigrated to a black majority country and then after becoming citizens there, re-emigrated to the US, they would be more successful. Apparently, the key for black success in this country is to not be from the US.

[Samm]

@biggestal99

@peek-a-boo

There certainly are poor white DEMs that are dependent on Government handouts. I include them in my metaphorical plantation reference. And to that point, I didn’t coin that metaphor by any stretch of the imagination. It has been around for a long time. In this piece DEMs refer to the metaphor as a racial slur. Its not surprising as these days almost everything DEMs don’t like takes on some kind of a racial undertone.

Also quite a few representatives from the Democratic Party are black.
Very few Republican representatives.

Allan

What do you expect when 89% of blacks always vote Democratic? To be a black Republican, one has to acknowledge that they will be ostracized by a large number of other blacks.

[peek-a-boo]

You seem to have all the answers. Why don’t you tell me.

[Samm]

@WildRose

I’ve already detailed it out repeatedly.

Stay in school, get an HS diploma.

Stay out of jail/prison.

Don’t make any babies till you are married.

Get a technical/skill certification or a college degree.

If you have no other resources for education beyond HS, there are apprenticeships and job/technical training programs all over the country or spend a hitch in the military and earn education benefits and/or get technical training in the service which will make you employable in the private sector.

Following that simple recipe has worked for tens of millions of Americans wanting to escape poverty since the end of WWII.

Precisely on the money!

[zantax]

@Samm

@Ben_Natuf

@TommyLucchese

You know this doesn’t work right.

what doesn’t work is your denial that the democrat plantation exists

“if you have to think about who to vote for, you ain’t black”

Blacks are not allowed to think on the democrat plantation, just vote.

“If you are black and don’t vote for Biden, you are not black.” The metaphor is quite appropriate.

In that specific instance I would agree. Still not something people should throw around all day, every day. But that isn’t saying they are on a plantation, it is saying Biden acts like they are.

[Eagle-Keeper]

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@Eagle-Keeper

@biggestal99

What distinguishes Black Americans who have attained success to those who have not?

Answer: the same things that white Americans have:
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So you would agree with conservatives on this? Because the message and/or view from many on the left is that black Americans don’t have the same opportunities as everyone else.

Statistically speaking, if American blacks emigrated to a black majority country and then after becoming citizens there, re-emigrated to the US, they would be more successful. Apparently, the key for black success in this country is to not be from the US.

The fact is as you alluded to that blacks that have immigrated to the US have higher success rates than those of black born here.

[Samm]

@zantax

@Samm

@Ben_Natuf

@TommyLucchese

You know this doesn’t work right.

what doesn’t work is your denial that the democrat plantation exists

“if you have to think about who to vote for, you ain’t black”

Blacks are not allowed to think on the democrat plantation, just vote.

“If you are black and don’t vote for Biden, you are not black.” The metaphor is quite appropriate.

In that specific instance I would agree. Still not something people should throw around all day, every day. But that isn’t saying they are on a plantation, it is saying Biden acts like they are.

What’s the point of political rhetoric if you aren’t allowed to use it?

[zantax]

@Samm

@zantax

@Samm

@Ben_Natuf

@TommyLucchese

You know this doesn’t work right.

what doesn’t work is your denial that the democrat plantation exists

“if you have to think about who to vote for, you ain’t black”

Blacks are not allowed to think on the democrat plantation, just vote.

“If you are black and don’t vote for Biden, you are not black.” The metaphor is quite appropriate.

In that specific instance I would agree. Still not something people should throw around all day, every day. But that isn’t saying they are on a plantation, it is saying Biden acts like they are.

What’s the point of political rhetoric if you aren’t allowed to use it?

I don’t know. Maybe I am a weirdo. I just don’t think it is right or acceptable to mock historically oppressed people with a reminder of their oppression. I’m just weird like that.

[Samm]

@Eagle-Keeper

The fact is as you alluded to that blacks that have immigrated to the US have higher success rates than those of black born here.

Yes, that’s why I said it. Yet the Democrat mantra is that the white dominated society in this country holds back both blacks and immigrants, so obviously, the bill of goods that they try to sell everyone must be flawed.

[Samm]

@zantax

@Samm

@zantax

@Samm

@Ben_Natuf

@TommyLucchese

You know this doesn’t work right.

what doesn’t work is your denial that the democrat plantation exists

“if you have to think about who to vote for, you ain’t black”

Blacks are not allowed to think on the democrat plantation, just vote.

“If you are black and don’t vote for Biden, you are not black.” The metaphor is quite appropriate.

In that specific instance I would agree. Still not something people should throw around all day, every day. But that isn’t saying they are on a plantation, it is saying Biden acts like they are.

What’s the point of political rhetoric if you aren’t allowed to use it?

I don’t know. Maybe I am a weirdo. I just don’t think it is right or acceptable to mock historically oppressed people with a reminder of their oppression. I’m just weird like that.

We are not mocking historically oppressed people, we are mocking the historical oppressors.

[WildRose]

Welfare, free/subsidized housing, food stamps, SNAP payments, WIC, and medicaid.

When you add up all the freebies a single mom with 2-5 kids gets from the gov’t for many it eliminates the desire to do anything for themselves.

[zantax]

@Samm

@zantax

@Samm

@zantax

@Samm

@Ben_Natuf

@TommyLucchese

You know this doesn’t work right.

what doesn’t work is your denial that the democrat plantation exists

“if you have to think about who to vote for, you ain’t black”

Blacks are not allowed to think on the democrat plantation, just vote.

“If you are black and don’t vote for Biden, you are not black.” The metaphor is quite appropriate.

In that specific instance I would agree. Still not something people should throw around all day, every day. But that isn’t saying they are on a plantation, it is saying Biden acts like they are.

What’s the point of political rhetoric if you aren’t allowed to use it?

I don’t know. Maybe I am a weirdo. I just don’t think it is right or acceptable to mock historically oppressed people with a reminder of their oppression. I’m just weird like that.

We are not mocking historically oppressed people, we are mocking the historical oppressors.

See it used both ways, to mock democratic leadership and to mock black voters. Either way, it’s a hurtful and needless reference to their historical oppression. Which is not to be confused with current oppression. Sorry but it’s just flat out racist to single black people out as having a unique preference for government support and to say they can be bought that cheaply, the minute you single out a racial group you are already in trouble. I am white, that doesn’t mean I am all white people.

[Samm]

You are putting way too much thought into this.

[zantax]

@Samm

You are putting way too much thought into this.

Nope, you are overestimating how much thought I give my anonymous internet posts.

[WuWei]

@biggestal99

oP title

What distinguishes Black Americans who have attained success to those who have not?

Answer: the same things that white Americans have:

1. Rich parents
2. aptitude to entertain the masses.
3. aptitude for entrepreneurship
4. Education for a respected profession
5. Luck

Or Any combination of above 5

Me, it was number 5 for sure.

Allan

No.

1. A high school diploma.
2. No children out of wedlock.
3. Get a job.
4. Keep job.

[Samm]

@zantax

Nope, you are overestimating how much thought I give my anonymous internet posts.

Okay … then you are putting more thought into it than is necessary for an anonymous internet post. On the Internet, it is not necessary to look at anything from both sides.

[zantax]

@WuWei

@biggestal99

oP title

What distinguishes Black Americans who have attained success to those who have not?

Answer: the same things that white Americans have:

1. Rich parents
2. aptitude to entertain the masses.
3. aptitude for entrepreneurship
4. Education for a respected profession
5. Luck

Or Any combination of above 5

Me, it was number 5 for sure.

Allan

No.

1. A high school diploma.
2. No children out of wedlock.
3. Get a job.
4. Keep job.

Id make that at least two years of community college or other training program. High school degree doesn’t really cut it any more. Yes, there are exceptions, but they are getting fewer and fewer as years go by.

[WuWei]

@zantax

@WuWei

@biggestal99

oP title

What distinguishes Black Americans who have attained success to those who have not?

Answer: the same things that white Americans have:

1. Rich parents
2. aptitude to entertain the masses.
3. aptitude for entrepreneurship
4. Education for a respected profession
5. Luck

Or Any combination of above 5

Me, it was number 5 for sure.

Allan

No.

1. A high school diploma.
2. No children out of wedlock.
3. Get a job.
4. Keep job.

Id make that at least two years of community college or other training program. High school degree doesn’t really cut it any more.

Of course it does. What percentage of US workers have no college?

[zantax]

@WuWei

@zantax

@WuWei

@biggestal99

oP title

What distinguishes Black Americans who have attained success to those who have not?

Answer: the same things that white Americans have:

1. Rich parents
2. aptitude to entertain the masses.
3. aptitude for entrepreneurship
4. Education for a respected profession
5. Luck

Or Any combination of above 5

Me, it was number 5 for sure.

Allan

No.

1. A high school diploma.
2. No children out of wedlock.
3. Get a job.
4. Keep job.

Id make that at least two years of community college or other training program. High school degree doesn’t really cut it any more.

Of course it does. What percentage of US workers have no college?

Need to refine that a bit, what percentage living above the poverty line springs to mind.

[zantax]

Don’t get me wrong, some people don’t need college to succeed, my little brother is one of them, was a CEO of a top three US telecom company, no college, frankly shouldn’t have passed high school, people love him though, he motivates people with his personality. Pretty sure they don’t teach that at Yale.