This is a good point. Only Trump could have been stupid enough to actually believe it.
And all of you bought Obama’s “Shovel Ready Jobs”, “If you like your plan you can keep your plan”, and “Every family will save 2,500.00 a year on their health care expenditures” repeating them all as if they were straight from the Gospel of St. Obama.
The Spectator Australia is not a credible news source.
The Yarloop fire has ZERO to do with the current bushfire crises Australia is facing.
Climate Depot not a credible source.
The appropriate sources are the police and the fire services not the current Australian government.
If one accepted what you have posted then the 25A should be invoked today (14/01/2020).
I don’t even know what this is…
I kept my plan and my doctor
Can we say not a single person saved that much? Maybe a $2500 cost avoidance. If that is the case, then I fall into that camp to. My employer provided healthcare for better and the year over year increases were lower than normal
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Right, only those covering for their own ineptness and malfeasance are credible.
Explain for us how climate change is responsible for years and even decades of fuel building up and suddenly spontaneously combustion, and how climate change is responsible for poor water management as well as an inept response to the fires.
The explain for us how climate change is responsible for arsonists and careless idiots igniting the fires.
A detailed, non rambling, non defecting answer would be a much appreciated change from your norm.
No you couldn’t have possibly kept both your plan and your doctor since all plans that didn’t meet O’care criteria became unlawful, even Obama had to finally admit it was true after the emails came out showing it was a scam from the start.
Single person vs family? Piss poor move of the goalposts.
You claim not to know what “Shovel ready Jobs means”?
Seriously?
Even those of us who may have saved on premiums, highly debatable and all but unprovable got stuck with policies most can’t afford to use because they’ll never exceed the annual out of pocket max before insurance starts paying.
Well get right after it. Good luck with your campaign.
Were they? I believe they coulda been.
I have already provided links to the BOM (Australia) climate report. Similarly, I have provided a link which completely repudiates the LIE that arson is responsible for Australia’s current bushfire crises. If you choose to check those links out you will find that many of your comments are not correct and the overall tone of your argument is fundamentally flawed.
You’ve provided nothing but deflections and excuses so I think we’re done derailing this thread.
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100% possible.
Blue cross blue shield PPO. Kept my doctor since he still accepted the insurance before and after ACA.
Family of 4
I’m not sure what the lie is…
No, you couldn’t have kept the same plan, it had to change to meet O’care.
The claim was that everyone could keep their plans and their doctors and even obama eventually had to admit it wasn’t true.
If you can’t figure out what the shovel ready jobs related to I’m not going to spoon feed it to you any further.
Alas and alack what you think you proved, you did not. Did you read the linked article?
Also, are you able to explain how a bushfire in 2016 is related to the bushfires in 2019/2020?
Same problems, same issues, same malfeasance.
As I said,we’ve derailed this thread enough.
Obamacare added minimum standards, my plan exceeded the minimum. How hard is this to understand? You don’t know everything.
I kept my doctor too, because my doctor continued to accept BCBS.
He said “if you like your doctor, you can keep them” I did. He didn’t lie to me.
He said “if you like your plan, you can keep it” I kept my plan and actually got a better one for slightly more money.
He lied to SOME people. But not me.
I kept my Dr. I think all but one or two of my employees kept their Dr too.
No, O’care created a long list of mandates inclucing everyone in the country having to pay for birth control and abortion coverage along with many others.
All plans had to either be altered or completely replaced.
Even if for a moment we assume your pretext to be accurate that certainly didn’t apply to every policy existing at the time.
It was a lie and he finally admitted it.
Even politifact had to give the lie a “pants on fire” rating.
as we learn more information the “intimidate” threat of Soleimani becomes less and less intimidate.