We Need To Stop the Shutdown & Go Back to Work

hwyflier · 2020-04-03T17:34:10.668Z

gooddad409:

Listened to Dr Oz

I was taking you seriously. Please, don’t tell me these things. Or source whatever source the tv personality was using instead.

gooddad409:

You do not appear to like the idea but it would be good for the country.

The idea of a wonder drug? Sign me up. I’ll call it whatever you want me to call it if you and me take it and it makes this all go away.

I’m just observing the reality that isn’t the case. I’d love it to be. Show me that it actually is and save the world.

gooddad409:

I haven’t heard Trump call it a wonder drug. I did hear him call it promising.

Right, and it may be helpful. But there was a time last week while Trump was touting this while making Dr. Fauci grimace next to him, and Trump was hoping he could use this to get us back to normal by Easter. Since then, even Trump, the biggest promoter of this “solution” has had to say we’re basically closed to May. Because it’s not a solution now, yet, or any predictable time in the near future.

gooddad409 · 2020-04-03T17:36:44.637Z

I get it. Probable good news isn’t good for the dem side.

It has to be down played. Have a nice day.

hwyflier · 2020-04-03T17:40:08.539Z

gooddad409:

I get it. Probable good news isn’t good for the dem side.

It has to be down played. Have a nice day.

Don’t run, there’s nothing else to do.

I’ve repeatedly told you I want the good news. Do it. Save the world, please. There’s nothing to play down. There’s reality, and it all currently sucks.

hwyflier · 2020-04-03T17:41:24.730Z

There’s no vast conspiracy causing us all to be refused shots of whatever from anyone that will fix this.

gooddad409 · 2020-04-03T17:42:08.650Z

hwyflier:

gooddad409:

I get it. Probable good news isn’t good for the dem side.

It has to be down played. Have a nice day.

Don’t run, there’s nothing else to do.

I’ve repeatedly told you I want the good news. Do it. Save the world, please. There’s nothing to play down. There’s reality, and it all currently sucks.

Check the links in “Could lockdowns end in may” if you are interested.

If you are afraid to then just ignore.

hwyflier · 2020-04-03T17:55:12.595Z

gooddad409:

If you are afraid to then just ignore.

What exactly is your implication here?

You keep repeating it.

Because it really seems like you want and need to believe that I am happy about the state of the world

Toll_Collector · 2020-04-03T18:46:54.530Z

Amid all of this mass hysteria, has anyone determined the RO for Covid-19 yet? Basically how contagious it is. Anyone?

NJBob · 2020-04-03T18:57:19.269Z

It appears to be less contagious than measles and chickenpox but more contagious than the seasonal flu.

This is interesting:

nytimes.com

How Does the Coronavirus Compare With the Flu?

As new cases appear in the U.S., some — including the president — have compared it to the seasonal flu. Here’s a close look at the differences.

Toll_Collector · 2020-04-03T19:27:16.385Z

NJBob:

It appears to be less contagious than measles and chickenpox but more contagious than the seasonal flu.

This is interesting:

I can’t read the article, but yeah, I am assuming by how fast this spread that it has to be more contagious than the flu. Flu is around an RO of 1.3. Measles is around 15. So to say it’s more contagious than the flu but less than measles is like me saying the bomb is bigger than a stick a dynamite but less powerful than a nuclear bomb. :). I’m assuming the article took a guess.

Anything north of 2 and it’s starting to get pretty bad.

NJBob · 2020-04-03T19:38:12.371Z

Toll_Collector:

NJBob:

It appears to be less contagious than measles and chickenpox but more contagious than the seasonal flu.

This is interesting:

I can’t read the article, but yeah, I am assuming by how fast this spread that it has to be more contagious than the flu. Flu is around an RO of 1.3. Measles is around 15. So to say it’s more contagious than the flu but less than measles is like me saying the bomb is bigger than a stick a dynamite but less powerful than a nuclear bomb. :). I’m assuming the article took a guess.

Anything north of 2 and it’s starting to get pretty bad.

I thought NYT took down the paywall for covid related articles

NJBob · 2020-04-03T19:40:55.616Z

Toll_Collector:

the bomb is bigger than a stick a dynamite but less powerful than a nuclear bomb.

If you stand close it really doesn’t matter.

Toll_Collector · 2020-04-03T20:51:03.753Z

NJBob:

If you stand close it really doesn’t matter.

That’s a good point in regards to bombs, not contagions.

NJBob:

I thought NYT took down the paywall for covid related articles

Apparently not. They do have a Covid-19 frequently asked questions section however.

WildRose · 2020-04-03T20:52:32.312Z

Neither have ever been afforded constitutional protections. Try again.

WildRose · 2020-04-03T20:55:34.679Z

Can we start with mandatory neutering for all Darwin Candidates?

WildRose · 2020-04-03T20:56:26.017Z

We already crashed the economy in case you missed it and that came after we started stripping people of their rights.

wiley8425 · 2020-04-03T21:01:21.082Z

The virus can live on surfaces for up to 24 days. Someone with COVID touches a door handle and contaminates it. You use the same door handle and get it on your hand. You put your hand over your mouth as you yawn. Boom, you’ve got it.

WildRose · 2020-04-03T21:03:22.747Z

Where exactly are you getting that? I’ve seen nothing showing that it remains viable for more than 4-6hrs max on hard surfaces.

Publius · 2020-04-03T21:05:27.042Z

They found covid-19 in cabins on the first contaminated ship at least 17 days after it had been emptied.

WildRose · 2020-04-03T21:08:45.175Z

It hadn’t been vacant for 17 days and simply finding the particles does’t mean they remained viable.

Example, you can still find a dead cat in a cabin after 17 days as well but it will neither bite, nor scratch you nor will it have babies.

Publius · 2020-04-03T21:15:58.204Z

Unlike viruses, cats are alive to start with.