By the way… what part of chauvin’s body weight did he actually put on the guy"s neck? That will be important in the trial. Apparently… given your use of the term “executioner” … you have a way to measure that.
The coroner ruled it a homicide. Chauvin is directly responsible for his death, and it’ll be proven at the trial. At this point, it’s an open and shut case. He will be convicted, I’ll even bet my profile picture for three months on it.
There were dozens of threads on the subject. It’s a dead horse at this point.
The question now is the aftermath. Where do we go from here? How do we repair the damage?
BLM isn’t helping matters at all. It’s a tainted movement. The riots have destroyed the fragile trust between white America and black America. All the progress has been obliterated.
This will take the better part of a generation to fix.
Implying that anyone here said the man should have been killed for counterfeiting is exactly a strawman…“an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent’s real argument.”
No one said that. So yes… you are using a strawman.
People who engage in risky activities increase the probability of death, in virtually every situation in life. If one VOLUNTARILY engages in risky behavior, they must assume the responsibility for the consequences.
My statement is not saying who deserves what. It is a truism within our culture. No one “deserves” to die without committing some crime and having some capital punishment imposed on them. But deserving to die and voluntarily increasing the probability of dying are two different things. Like the bungee jumper whose rope was too long, floyd engaged in behavior which increased the probability of his death. There was more than the cop there. There was Floyd with his illegal and aggressive behavior and there was the cop with his behavior. Had either one of them not engaged in their respective behaviors, Floyd would likely be alive today .
If you want to debate that we can. But dont twist my words into so and so “deserving” anything.
I don’t disagree with that. I’ve already stated that Floyd definitely shouldn’t have resisted the arrest.
Chauvin definitely shouldn’t have done what he did, either. Ultimately the responsibility lies on Chauvin. Rowdy people are arrested by police every day without being killed.
Chauvin was on his neck for 8 minutes. He had completely control of Floyd about a minute in. He was no longer in a position to resist.
But you are correct that Floyd’s decision to resist started the situation. Chauvin took it to it’s tragic conclusion.
Well those decisions are made on a case by case basis either by the jury or judge depending on the state.
I’d say both of them deserve to die the same way their kids did.
You of course dodged the question.
How many times have truly innocent men/women been executed in this country?
You now have another, “opportunity to excel”.
Death Penalties are handed down either by a judge after the jury decides guilt or by a jury following the trial phase where conviction is determined and again by a jury when the punishment is decided, not by, “The State”.
The state only sets the sentencing guidelines and presents the prosecution side of the case.
Wrong. Not guilty simply means the judge/jury was not convinced to the standard of “reasonable doubt”. It is not a determination of innocence in any way.
You probably want to edit that ISH.
No, they have not been completely exonerated. DNA can prove you were there, a lack of DNA cannot prove you were not.
Having your case overturned does not completely exonerate you.
No, George Floyd was murdered after he chose to resist arrest with force.
Overwhelmingly those victims are blacks murdered by other blacks as well but those “Black Lives” Don’t Matter.
Then create a perfect system that can be administered and executed by imperfect people.
