We are so for free speech! NOW SHUT THE HELL UP!

Striker840 · 2024-03-28T02:59:35.963Z

Reply snipped…
Probably because I only catch a segment or two twice a day.

Smyrna · 2024-03-28T10:22:10.424Z

Guilds:

Cons/pubs have been calling the media the “liberal” media since the 60’s.

That has been the consistent whine for decades.

That isn’t what I’m referring to. What I saw happening was where they began telling lies…blatant lies…front and center…then retractions later that have little to no impact of undoing the damage done.

Adam · 2024-03-28T11:56:10.368Z

Smyrna:

Guilds:

Cons/pubs have been calling the media the “liberal” media since the 60’s.

That has been the consistent whine for decades.

That isn’t what I’m referring to. What I saw happening was where they began telling lies…blatant lies…front and center…then retractions later that have little to no impact of undoing the damage done.

Oh, so you followed the Dominion case against Fox? That makes me feel so much better. But you seem to still believe the Fox lies. That’s where I get confused.

Smyrna · 2024-03-28T11:58:15.484Z

Adam:

Oh, so you followed the Dominion case against Fox? That makes me feel so much better. But you seem to still believe the Fox lies. That’s where I get confused.

…drip, drip, drip…“we” have not heard the whole truth yet about the election or J6 but until we do, we deal honestly with the hand we’re dealt and carry on.

FreeAndClear · 2024-03-28T12:16:50.170Z

Smyrna:

Adam:

Oh, so you followed the Dominion case against Fox? That makes me feel so much better. But you seem to still believe the Fox lies. That’s where I get confused.

…drip, drip, drip…“we” have not heard the whole truth yet about the election or J6 but until we do, we deal honestly with the hand we’re dealt and carry on.

Any day now. It’s only been 3 years……

Smyrna · 2024-03-28T12:26:10.555Z

FreeAndClear:

Any day now. It’s only been 3 years…

The FBI was exposed by Durham but I told you about it in December of 2016. Now…how long did that take? It may very well be that the election was legal but 81 million was way too high and gives me room for reasonable doubt.

FreeAndClear · 2024-03-28T13:17:52.635Z

Smyrna:

FreeAndClear:

Any day now. It’s only been 3 years…

The FBI was exposed by Durham but I told you about it in December of 2016. Now…how long did that take? It may very well be that the election was legal but 81 million was way too high and gives me room for reasonable doubt.

No it wasn’t. . If anything Horowitz did more to “expose” what plenty of people knew before President Trump came down the escalator.

What Durham did was lose two criminal trials.

And still none of it showed any issues with the election or j6 so now sure why you brought that up.

Oh yes because you will never give up never surrender in the i ever ending search for truth as you imagine it to be!

Axxowiz · 2024-03-28T15:28:22.680Z

They are what the majority of the party has become, I am not in 100% agreement with it as I’m more of a fiscal conservative. She does represent a lot of voters right now though.

To be honest, I could care less but in principle I think the country would be a better place if we broke out of our bubble and talk to each other more kinda like we do here. It’s a little funny, but this little piece of forum here is kind of the oddity of what’s going on right now most people stay in their bubble…

Guilds · 2024-03-28T22:50:55.134Z

Zippy:

Exactly which rights are they supposedly being denied?

Most states don’t ban discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity in the workplace, housing, or public accommodations (hotels, restaurants, and other places that serve the general public).

As a result, more than half of LGBTQ Americans, according to the LGBTQ advocacy group Movement Advancement Project, live in a state where, under state law, an employer can legally fire someone because he’s gay, a landlord can legally evict someone because she’s lesbian, and a hotel manager can legally deny service to someone who’s transgender — for no reason other than the person’s sexual orientation or gender identity.

Optrader · 2024-03-29T00:10:49.118Z

Guilds:

Zippy:

Exactly which rights are they supposedly being denied?

Most states don’t ban discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity in the workplace, housing, or public accommodations (hotels, restaurants, and other places that serve the general public).

As a result, more than half of LGBTQ Americans, according to the LGBTQ advocacy group Movement Advancement Project, live in a state where, under state law, an employer can legally fire someone because he’s gay, a landlord can legally evict someone because she’s lesbian, and a hotel manager can legally deny service to someone who’s transgender — for no reason other than the person’s sexual orientation or gender identity.

According to the LGBTQ advocacy group movement Advancement project?? Who the hell are they? Sounds like a really legitimate unbiased group to me. And I’ll bet they provided you a list of people who were the told by their boss " YOU’RE FIRED BECAUSE YOUR GAY" or a landlord telling a tenant “I’M EVICTING YOU BECAUSE YOU’RE A LESBIAN” or a hotel manager telling the person at their counter saying " NO SERVICE BECAUSE YOUR TRANS…". It’s not happening.

More likely, this group went through some state laws and found some states didn’t specifically spell out in explicit language that these things are prohibited. So this group, as Lib organizations are prone to do, creates a problem that isn’t a problem for anyone except the Lib group in a pathetic attempt to make money and legitimize themselves among among a very small minority group so they can make even more money… Have you sent your support check yet?

Zippy · 2024-03-29T00:24:29.403Z

Optrader:

According to the LGBTQ advocacy group movement

Who make their money from this perceived “infringement “ upon their rights.

Just like HRC.

No discrimination, no $$

And exactly where in the constitution is the “right “ to a job”

Kinda the whole birthday cake thing, huh?

WuWei · 2024-03-29T00:25:37.596Z

Adam:

You understand that she’s entitled to no constitutional right to be hired by NBC right? That’s not free speech.

Close your eyes. Imagine she’s black.

WuWei · 2024-03-29T00:28:06.110Z

Zippy:

JayJay:

I guarantee you didn’t think the boycotters were aborgating anyone’s rights…

Excuse me.

Could you please point to exactly where I said this?

He didn’t say you said it. Come on man!

Adam · 2024-03-29T00:28:24.173Z

WuWei:

Adam:

You understand that she’s entitled to no constitutional right to be hired by NBC right? That’s not free speech.

Close your eyes. Imagine she’s black.

Close your eyes. Imagine you know what the Constitution is. I know it’s difficult.

WuWei · 2024-03-29T00:33:51.331Z

I know what the Constitution is. And I know what this thread would look like.

Adam · 2024-03-29T00:37:25.558Z

WuWei:

I know what the Constitution is. And I know what this thread would look like.

If you did you wouldn’t have asked us to think about if she were black. You have your views on race…and it comes up a lot. And you inject it all the time, pretending that you’re mocking how the “other side” brings race into things, but you do it no matter what. Because you want to. And in this case, the OP brought up 1st Amendment rights, and as a true scholar of the Constitution you would know that in no way it would apply. But when pointed out, you bring in race. Because that’s you.

WuWei · 2024-03-29T01:09:20.670Z

I didn’t say the 1st applies. I’m here to shine a light on the hypocrisy.

WuWei · 2024-03-29T01:13:37.274Z

Adam:

Because that’s you.

You betcha. Us black folk got to ride the horse what brung us.

Oldandtired · 2024-03-29T04:43:07.836Z

It has shown that the democrats are lying when they say they are all about inclusion and diversity. Nope can’t have other views heard. Must do all they can to silence those evil voices. The liberal party has turned into the party of fascist.

DougBH · 2024-03-29T15:14:51.555Z

Oldandtired:

It has shown that the democrats are lying when they say they are all about inclusion and diversity. Nope can’t have other views heard. Must do all they can to silence those evil voices. The liberal party has turned into the party of fascist.

"MATT TAIBBI: I grew up as a traditional ACLU liberal type. I remember the day after the first Twitter Files story came out, the Washington Post described me as a “conservative journalist.” That’s where we are, in this bizarre realignment. When I grew up, I didn’t know anybody who was for censorship. There was nobody among the liberals I knew… who had any feelings in that direction. I think as recently as ten years ago, 95% of journalists would have been in agreement on this issue. We saw this after Glenn Greenwald broke the Snowden story., In the last ten years or so, there has been this dramatic realignment where suddenly free speech is coded as a right-wing issue. I think that is basically a strategy to try to delegitimize the issue and to try to scare a certain demographic into not paying attention to what this story is all about.

If you actually pay attention to Missouri v. Biden or the Twitter Files, it is not a partisan story. It is more about the exercise of government power and the decision to make sure the government has the ability to place leverage wherever it wants at a moment’s notice."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/03/25/rcps_samizdat_prize_matt_taibbi_jay_bhattacharya_and_miranda_devine_resisting_censorship.html