WAR in Ukraine, Putin approves initiation of special military operation (Part 3)

[Ben_Natuf]

Berlitec isn’t even Berlitec.

and all those american outlets are just reporting what Putin said. Guess what… if Putin says it, its Russian propaganda

[Bill.in.PA]

Telegram and Twitter have a been the main outlets for videos and information about the war from both the Ukrainian and Russian sides. The fact that NATO doubling down on censorship of these platforms is not an accident. If NATO can’t win on the battlefield, they can at least win the “information warfare”.

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In an unprecedented move, the heads of the MI6 and the CIA met in public to support the official narratives.

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The message to western media is clear: Follow the official line from London and Washington or you are next.

[Samm]

@Bill.in.PA

The preferred US approach has always been “get someone else to fight our wars while we make money selling weapons”.

What’s wrong with that?

[Ben_Natuf]

NATO isn’t on a battlefield/ their in the bleachers. if nato was on the battlefield, this war would have been finished in about three weeks

[Samm]

Don’t underestimate Russia’s ability to endure suffering.

[Ben_Natuf]

don’t underestimate our ability to end it

[Guvnah]

@Ben_Natuf

don’t underestimate our ability to end it

I’m with you on our ability to end wars on the battlefield.

I question our leadership ability to make the call to end it.

We haven’t had the guts to do that since WWII.

[Samm]

@Ben_Natuf

don’t underestimate our ability to end it

That depends on the meaning of “ends.”

[Ben_Natuf]

Trump did

[Ben_Natuf]

end, as in put into a state of permanent non-suffering.

Simple fact that is proven out over the last 30 years or so. We are the most efficient killers on a battlefield. We also mostly have the most scared assed political leadership in the world.

[Samm]

So nukes?

[SixFoot]

Russia does not have the ability to nuke anyone without us first allowing them to.

[Ben_Natuf]

we don’t need nukes. even if Putin was stupid enough to use a tactical Nuke in Ukraine (he’s not), we would not need Nukes to end him.

[Samm]

@Ben_Natuf

we don’t need nukes. even if Putin was stupid enough to use a tactical Nuke in Ukraine (he’s not), we would not need Nukes to end him.

I’m confused …

Didn’t you just say this?

@Ben_Natuf

end, as in put into a state of permanent non-suffering.

[Ben_Natuf]

we don’t need nukes for that

[Samm]

@SixFoot

Russia does not have the ability to nuke anyone without us first allowing them to.

Do you think Biden would not “first allow them to”?

[Ben_Natuf]

he’s too scared to do anything that might cause them to.

[SixFoot]

@Samm

@SixFoot

Russia does not have the ability to nuke anyone without us first allowing them to.

Do you think Biden would not “first allow them to”?

I stated a simple fact. Now you’re asking me to speculate on the wacky inner workings of dementia.

[Samm]

@Ben_Natuf

he’s too scared to do anything that might cause them to.

But we were talked about NATO. Biden doesn’t have the chops to stop a NATO country from provoking Russia.

[Samm]

@SixFoot

@Samm

@SixFoot

Russia does not have the ability to nuke anyone without us first allowing them to.

Do you think Biden would not “first allow them to”?

I stated a simple fact. Now you’re asking me to speculate on the wacky inner workings of dementia.

Good point.