Orygun
8515
It increasingly looks like Ukraine is making gains in the East near Kharkiv. The offensive in Kherson likely caused Russia to transfer troops there, leaving the East more open to attack. Ukrainian forces have used that advantage to retake the town of Balakliya.
Samm
8516
It is noteworthy that this purchase would violate a UN Security Council arms embargo against NK that Russia, as a member of that Council, voted for.
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Samm
8517
Russia is not losing. They just are not winning.
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Orygun
8520
Mmmm. Tide is turning. The counteroffensive is starting to pay off.
I’m not sure at what point you would say Ukraine is winning…only when they have eradicated Russia from all pre 2014 Ukraine territory?
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/07/politics/ukraine-russia-war-kherson/index.html
e7alr
8521
That is what happens in war.
Orygun
8522
This is a good wrap up of Ukrainian victories mounting in the counter offensive. The speed of the offensive seems to be picking up considerably. Lots of POWs, encircled Russians, deadly pinpoint attacks, villages and towns being recaptured, etc.
The tide is not turning. It’s slowing down a bit but it’s not turning.
Gaius
8524
I know that here and elsewhere I see quite a bit of postive news about the Ukrainian war effort. I am not a military analyst but it makes me think the the Russians are either starting to lose or locked in a quagmire.
Of course news about wars is not a very reliable indicator of progress on the ground.
I am sooo not an analyst or a strategist or have an iota of knowledge of anything war related.
I am however a Russian immigrant and fluent in Russian and follow a lot of the news. Nothing about the coverage by the people who are trying to review the events through a neutral lens suggests that the tide is turning. There is some positivity but it’s not much.
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Gaius
8526
Don’t take it personally but I have completely lost faith in “neutral lenses” regarding war coverage.
I remember right when the US was fighting 2 wars. Each day I would reador skim the daily press releases direct from centcomm.mil
Typically there would be
- 8-10 of them describing different engagements the US capturing or killing a dozen miltants in each
- and a few describing the US building water towers and schools and health clinics
- and every few days one would describe “three marines killed” or some such
Only one of those every got any coverage in the media. You are free to support or oppose war but the net effect of such slanted, filtered, one-sided prpagndist coverage by the US media was that polls showed Americans overwhelmingly thought we were getting our asses handed to us in both wars.
So umm yeah, I don’t believe the media much anymore.
Jezcoe
8527
How very George McClellan
Samm
8528
Yes, the tide is turning … toward a stalemate. Remember the Vietnam war?
Samm
8529
Can you cite another such instance?
Samm
8530
That’s an appropriate analogy. Good thing Sherman and Grant came along, huh.
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JayJay
8531
This would be a good time for global warming to give Europe a mild winter…which so far for the early part (through October) is looking to be a case.
yes, and in the end Vietnam controlled Vietnam. So will Ukraine. The bigger question is no matter the time it takes, will Putin survive losing the Crimea?
Gaius
8533
Russia fought a 14 year war in Afghanistan (and lost).
Russia fought a 12 year war in Chechnya (and won).
. . . . and it seems to me our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq lasted pretty long too.
There’s a new kind of war going on.
did they, or is it on pause?
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