5799

What are the grounds for the protest? Is not Russia also importing arms into Ukraine?

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5800

If I was falling after being pushed out a window, I might have a heart attack, too.

5801

Weellllll, they are going to Russian forces soooo
lol

5802

Ukrainians are now driving many of the tanks and vehicles that the Russians drove into Ukraine.

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5803

Haha good point

5804

its a send sieze program

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5805

I am going to make a prediction on two possible scenario’s of which one I think will happen.

A. Russia tries to keep the gains they got, expand just a little if any in the Donbass, and the citizens who are quote on quote trouble makers will end up silently be deported into deep Russia while ethnic Russians very pro Russian will be moved to the occupied territory in their place. That’s right out of Stalin’s playback not Hitler lol

B. Tactical nukes and possible chemical weapons will be used.

It could be a combination of both, that’s my opinion where it’s headed.

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5806

if Ukraine does nothing to change the dynamic. russia will eventually control everything east of the dneiper. they will attack eastern ukraine from dnipro north from 3 sides. after rolling up what ukrainian forces are there they’ll turn west until they control everything east of the dneiper. once thats done, they’ll make a bigger push on odessa

how long it will take? anybodies guess. do they have the resources to continue long enough? again, anybodies guess.

5807

Good assessment of their objectives. Attempting these objectives in moderate sized steps increases the likely hood of accomplishing their goals. It also raises the risk for Ukrainian forces. A big question is what are the actual Ukrainian losses currently at now. I don’t buy that they have taken only 3,000 while inflicting 20,000.

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5808

I’ve been in West Texas again for 2 days. I saw the report. The Orthodox Church is very big on Holy Relics. There is a major black market trade in Orthodox relics. That the Moskva had an Orthodox relic on board would not be out of the question. That it was an actual piece of the cross Jesus was crucified on would be another matter. but the Russians would believe it was a Holy Artifact, and any relic lost would be viewed as an emotional event.

I have been looking at the Moska (Slava) and some things jump right out about it. It is 1983 tech, and when you look at recent pictures, it still has old style sensors. US surface combatants all have phased array radar/battle control systems. And the Slava class was configured as an anti-surface system, not an air defense system. Our Ticonderoga class CGs and Burke class DDGs are first and foremost anti-air escorts for our carriers. Yes they carry a serious surface punch, but antiaircraft/anti-missile defense is their foundation. Slava class missile cruisers are the type of ship that would need air defense escorts. And the Neptune is a serious threat to any ship that has weak, or obsolete, air defense systems. It has almost twice the range of the original Soviet system and is significantly more capable than the current Russian version. It has 24 miles further range and carriers twice the warhead weight. It is a sea skimmer, approaching the target 30-45 feet off the surface, then dropping to under 20 ft above the surface in terminal attack mode. And the missile is effective up to sea state 6 conditions. Moska’s older sensor systems may have never seen it coming in rough weather conditions until it was too late to react. It also isn’t known how many were actually launched at the ship. Tactics usually dictate a swarm attack to overwhelm the ADA systems of a warship target.

**Additional information: Only the 2 newest Frigates in the Russian navy appear to have phased array battle control systems. Neither ship is currently in the Black Sea.

Essentially if the Moska was operating alone, or without modern antiaircraft escorts, it was at a severe disadvantage to Neptune missiles.

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5809

Tactical nukes on what targets?

5810

Getting annoyed at Zelensky and Ukraine.

I admit to being worried (and still being worried) about possible nuclear escalation.

But Zelensky and Ukraine appear to be overhyping the nuke threat as a way to get more help from the West.

Zelensky of course mentions it in his recent interview that will air this weekend.

And unnamed Ukrainian officials were spreading it a day or so ago by dropping “ominous hints” that the Moskva was carrying 2-3 nuclear weapons (US Intel says it has zero evidence of this).

I’m not liking his hyping
at all.

5812

He has been doing it since day one though. “They are coming for Poland for Finland etc.”. he said world war like second day of the war. It’s for public consumption. He is not targeting the governments with his statements. He knows that the intelligence agencies won’t agree with him

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5813

His biggest risk is the public appeals stop working, especially if the Russians start having battlefield successes in the East.

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5815

Why shouldn’t Zelensky mention it? You did.

5816

The Russians have a lot of tactical thermobaric munitions that they have not really brought into the fight yet. I would expect to see those first, then blood agents, then nerve agents before going nuclear.

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5817

image

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5818

An assessment from Al Jazeera. It’s not a bad assessment of the situation.

5819

Not bad, not bad


5820

Intense battles at the Azovstal plant in Mariupol:

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