US wages begin to fall


#201

Yeah ok. McDonald’s says they’re hiring less people but we should just take your word for it that they’re really not. Is that how things work in Canada?


#202

Those are not cashiers. Cashiers after losing their jobs to the kiosks, not stockers.


#203

I never said they would be employable.


#204

Or more in some cases. In my industry automation has made it so the work that used to be done by 300+ is now done by around 40. As the tech gets better, more will be automated and that number will shrink again.


#205

An almost 50% gain in employee productivity in one year, seems pretty obvious that means fewer employees doing the work.


#206

Why are they American Trump voters?


#207

A true free market wouldnt work…it never will…let it go


#208

And? Didn’t say it would, that doesn’t make something that isn’t free market, a mechanism of the free market.


#209

The problem is government is the only one that would get behind workforce shifting/retraining.

No industry would get behind it. There’s no incentive for workforce retraining to be done at the scale needed in a private fashion.


#210

No industry would get behind it? Strange, I would think if the industry had a shortage of qualified workers (take Nursing for example) that would be incentive right there. Every company is different though.


#211

No an ex CEO said that and he lost his job earlier this year meanwhile McDonalds is saying the opposite.

McDonald’s is hiring up to 1,900 people in Alberta, as it rolls out self-serve kiosks, customizable burgers and table service at its fast-food restaurants.

The changes to the traditional counter-service format are “transforming the guest experience and creating additional jobs,” said Shelly Hansen, the chain’s regional vice-president for Western Canada, in a release on Thursday.


#212

I said- to the scale needed to make a true impact on retraining our workforce to adapt to a global marketplace.


#213

But government would? They’re slow to act on everything.


#214

Gee I wonder why they are saying it’s not costing jobs, oh wait, I remember you already told us why a minute ago.

Drs posted

Funny thing businesses that whined and took out the hikes on employees ended up suffering public backlash. One coffee chain whose franchisees chose to go after their employees really took a hit.

Meanwhile, they magically had employee productivity shoot up 50% in one year.


#215

Yes they are…but they have the scale to handle it.

So let’s think of a model that would make it work rather than throwing up our hands in the vain hope “the free market” will sort this out.


#216

Government paid for retraining already exists and there isn’t some line of people waiting on it.


#217

Trade Act. Which is what I fell into a few years back. I was also collecting unemployment while I was retraining. That was tax money well spent. :roll_eyes:


#218

One of the reasons is because the dominant story coming out of our current administration is that we’re going to make the old industries great again, and so no one needs retraining. The beautiful coal mines will start pouring out jobs and coal again and the awesome steel mills will be humming!


#219

So there was a giant line of people waiting for it when Obama was telling them those jobs were gone?


#220

I’m sure there was at least a small portion of holdouts because that was all they knew. Older people especially generally aren’t going to retrain for a new industry. How many of those coal workers had done those jobs for decades before Obama declared war on the coal industry?