US to pull out of INF treaty with russia

moonshine · October 20, 2018, 10:16pm

trump claims russia is violating it .
the treaty has been in place sine 1986

calirepub · October 20, 2018, 10:17pm

Yeah. I saw that. I’m concerned about this.

Smyrna · October 20, 2018, 10:24pm

This should drive libs crazy cuz it’s nothing more than collusion and kissing Putin’s butt…amirite?

SottoVoce · October 20, 2018, 10:31pm

No. I’d hope it would drive everyone crazy unless you enjoy the thought of thermonuclear war. I can’t say I’m surprised that Russia may be violating the terms of the agreement given their track record. Not sure why Trump would shoulder the blame for the actions of Russia in this matter.

Smyrna · October 20, 2018, 10:33pm

I agree and that’s why I support Trump doing his best to ally with Russia without giving up anything of importance vs establishment spun…FAKE COLLUSION.

SottoVoce · October 20, 2018, 10:44pm

Unless there’s some crazy stuff going on (I’m sure someone somewhere will have theories) this and possible collusion surrounding the election are two entirely separate things.

calirepub · October 20, 2018, 10:46pm

CassandraJoe:

Another interesting point…the Treaty restricts Intermediate Range Nuclear missiles, not Long-Range missiles. That intermediate range is not far enough to attack the U.S. - only Europe.

There are some other interesting details on Wiki:

On 10 February 2007, Russian president Vladimir Putin declared that the INF Treaty no longer served Russia’s interests. On 14 February, the Information Telegraph Agency of Russia and Interfax quoted General Yuri Baluyevsky…as saying that Russia could pull out of the INF, and that the decision would depend on the United States’ actions with its proposed Ground-Based Midcourse Defense missile defense system, parts of which the U.S. at the time planned to deploy in Poland and the Czech Republic. (Subsequently, the plan was altered and American MK-41 missile launchers were placed at new bases in Romania and Poland)

And…

Dan Blumenthal of the American Enterprise Institute wrote that the actual Russian problem with the INF was that China is not bound by it and continued to build up their own Intermediate-Range forces.

Which is one of the reasons the Emperor gave for backing out of the treaty, too.

I guess I don’t care about this after all. Europe should be securing it’s own defense.

SottoVoce · October 20, 2018, 10:49pm

That border wall should do the trick. Just have to make it really tall and hope they use a northerly trajectory. I’m convinced. Build it now!

SottoVoce · October 20, 2018, 10:55pm

Technically the wall is on US soil, which is a NATO member.

SottoVoce · October 20, 2018, 11:11pm

Correct. Mexican, liberal, socialist and also somehow communist. Now you know why some are so afraid.

Konssurvative1 · October 20, 2018, 11:22pm

Isn’t that how Putin looked at it as well?

hindsight · October 20, 2018, 11:59pm

Trumpbots = Putinbots?

7ranz · October 21, 2018, 12:07am

Nuclear Warfare is giving Climate Change a run for its money.

conan · October 21, 2018, 1:15am

You guys do know Russia been cheating for years…under Obama.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-11-21/make-putin-pay-for-cheating-on-nukes

Also Russia been violating Obama/Russia agreement by not disabling its SS-25 mobile missiles.

Here is article in March 2017…less then two months after Trump taken office which we knew then that Russia was skirting INF Treaty.

Follow the links because it goes to NYSlime.

Call_me_Ishmael · October 21, 2018, 1:23am

…pretty sure that’s why Russia was colluding with Hillary.

conan · October 21, 2018, 1:25am

Under Obama Putin thought he could get away with it…and for some time he did.

And now libs are bitching because Putin puppet is cracking down on him.

I swear you can’t make libs hypocrisy up.

wiley8425 · October 21, 2018, 1:28am

Well you know, one minute a bumbling idiot who can’t tie his own shoes, the next a criminal Mastermind using the government to further his criminal empire.

conan · October 21, 2018, 1:29am

Trumps been playing em like they’re silly putty.

They’re still focused on his hands while missing the act itself.

Safiel · October 21, 2018, 2:54am

This may not be as reckless a move that it might seem on the surface.

Obviously, we must wait and see how the administration intends to proceed going forward.

conan · October 21, 2018, 2:59am

Oddly enough couple months back I’ve read Russia wanted China in INF treaty. Now I’m not sure what China has in there inventory but from what I’ve read couple years ago China been building up their mid range missiles.

So I’m thinking their might be more to it then what we know about.

What do you think?