US forces in Syria, How many, How long, and At what cost?

conan · 2019-10-14T16:20:26.993Z

Sknyluv:

Keep the status quo until a diplomatic agreement was reached?

For how long? They been at for couple years when talks had broken down.

TheRedComet · 2019-10-14T16:24:46.252Z

We are siblings and children of the mother country.

We grew our hair long, bought a Camaro, wore leather, and moved out at 15.

You guys were the good kids. Kept your hair straight, wore a suit, and left home at 21.

Regardless of our differences though, Canada and America are sister nations.

Sknyluv · 2019-10-14T16:41:11.130Z

conan:

Sknyluv:

Keep the status quo until a diplomatic agreement was reached?

For how long? They been at for couple years when talks had broken down.

What’s a few months or a year to prevent an ally from being wiped out? Hell, even given the Kurds 24 hours might have prevented some needless deaths.

Cynic · 2019-10-14T17:00:50.485Z

AmusedObserver · 2019-10-14T17:42:25.129Z

DougBH:

Its good to see someone else making assumptions of blame similar to mine.

Occam has a pretty good track record.

Steel-W0LF · 2019-10-14T18:25:28.257Z

westaussie:

Let me assure you that 0.6 miles is not the same as a kilometre.

.625 if your going to be that picky.

tnt · 2019-10-14T18:36:18.136Z

conan:

Blindsided? Trump been telling everyone that he wanted to leave. It seems those generals didn’t listen or thought Trump was serious.

Maybe he should give them a few days warning to prepare?

westaussie · 2019-10-14T18:39:27.651Z

Only when appropriate.

tnt · 2019-10-14T18:57:00.266Z

markdido:

I remember when the libs here kept saying that we shouldn’t be the world’s policeman.
I guess their cool with that now.

Did libs ever suggest pulling out without consulting generals, and leaving allies to be wiped out through genocide, raped, stoned and murdered?

hwyflier · 2019-10-14T20:24:37.990Z

conan:

Blindsided? Trump been telling everyone that he wanted to leave. It seems those generals didn’t listen or thought Trump was serious

This post is absurd.

It’s the generals fault for not…what? Reading Trump’s mind? Trump can’t even read his own mind. Trump didn’t even go into that phone call with Erdogan with a plan, and you want to blame the military?

sikofit · 2019-10-14T20:44:01.350Z

It’s OK Trump is going to sanction Trump

Trump says he’ll soon impose sanctions on Turkey and anyone “contributing to Turkey’s destabilizing actions in northeast Syria”

CNN – 14 Oct 19

Live updates: What's happening in Syria

President Trump has ordered the remaining US forces out of northern Syria as Turkish forces launch ongoing attacks on the Syrian border. Follow here for the latest.

mobiusptc · 2019-12-04T22:03:34.414Z

Seems like the answer is somewhere in the area of 14,000 troops and a couple dozen warships.

WSJ

WSJ News Exclusive | Trump Administration Considers 14,000 More Troops for...

The deployment of as many as 14,000 additional troops could double the number of U.S. military personnel who have been sent to the region since the start of a buildup in May.

WildRose · 2019-12-05T01:05:23.159Z

To the region, not Syria.

Adam · 2019-12-05T01:54:32.096Z

These these troops may not be going to Syria. But it does help focus on Syria where Trump said he was bringing the troops out of Syria when in no way has this happened. Fact. Bragged about pulling the troops out of Syria. So that hasn’t happened. We’re still there guarding Syrian oil fields for some reason. I know why. Trump focuses on simple things like oil so when he declared we were leaving someone said what about the oilfields? To stop him from pulling completely out of Syria. Trump latched on that. Syria never produced a lot. .5 of one percent of global production before the war. But he doesnt know that. So we’re still keeping 1000+ troops there to protect these oil fields. As an attempt to still keep some influence there after Trump randomly pulled our forces away from the border sacrificing our Kurdish allies and handing everything that we helped SDF build over to Russia, Iran, Assad and Turkey.

WildRose · 2019-12-05T04:17:26.715Z

You’ve got first hand knowledge of all of the troop movements in and out of Syria?

Links please.

Adam · 2019-12-05T05:15:40.333Z

“Not every claim can or has to be provable.”
WildRose, November 23, 2019.

But I never claimed first hand knowledge. This is a decent article from Defense Blog article though. I follow them and they’re pretty close to Defense News:

https://defence-blog.com/army/pentagon-reveals-reasons-why-u-s-forces-still-remain-in-syria.html

It talks about troops in Syria and why.

WildRose · 2019-12-05T05:43:38.300Z

If you’re going to make the claim he hasnt’ moved any troops out of Syria you should be able to provide the documentation to that effect.

Personal experiences, conversations etc cannot always be documented.

So according to your article there is a residual force remaining to prevent the Kurds from again facing the possibility of slaughter at the hands of the Turks and that they are resuming combined ops with the SDF.

I’d call that a good thing.

He also seems to be saying that we did withdraw, and then moved back in as a result of the Turkish campaign to essentially ethnically cleanse the Kurds from along the Turkish border.

Again, I’d call that a good thing.

Samson_Corwell · 2019-12-05T05:55:27.035Z

I’m disappointed. I thought Rose was going to be earnest about the cost of war for a second there.

Adam · 2019-12-05T06:32:08.912Z

You start a lot of posts saying someone said something they didn’t. I didn’t say Trump pulled no troops out. Trump claimed he was pulling the troops out of Syria.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1183822488192671745

https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1183822494031065088

And by residual force you mean half of what was there before in northeast Syria? Yeah, half is residual. No mention of al-Tanf. Cause that’s not going anywhere.

And you’re all over the place defending Trump’s incoherent policy. We pulled back cause we couldnt protect the Kurds apparently(which is ■■■■■■■■■ Trump got played). Then apparently we stayed to stop the Turks? But we couldn’t stop them to begin with according to CEC talking points. So us still there stops Turkey how? So now we’re still there guarding oilfields that were already secure by SDF before Trump called for a withdrawal without knowing what the ■■■■ he was doing.

WildRose · 2019-12-05T08:59:26.511Z

The “cost of war” wasn’t under discussion.

If you have an issue state it.