Oh look, another debunked OP. 
All too common lately.
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and now the state department is admitting they have no idea who they killed. sorry libs, but when you order a drone strike against âwhoeverâ with no actual intel that theyâre actually a legit target, thatâs just murder. here, joe biden ordered a murder to change the narrative in an attempt to appear strong.
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Thatâs exactly what it was, a pathetic attempt to save face.
I hope @Camp already added this headline to the False Story Warehouse thread. lol
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With no human intel on the ground, itâs the best we can expect now.
But it was still a âswiftâ response.
These people are in charge of the worlds biggest nuclear arsenal. Think about that.
What about the time the Obama program killed an American citizen without due process? Not even a trial?
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Citizens who arenât in the United States lose their rights to due process.
Allan
no, they donât. citizens who join terrorist organizations do however become enemies, who are not entitled to due process ever.
And thatâs where I differ slightly from you opinion.
If they are in the United States they have due process rights. Padilla.
Outside no rights. 4 who were droned outside the US
Allan
Would have been interesting to see what SCOTUS thought of holding US citizens on US Soil without due process before the Bush admin charged Padilla with US federal crimes and the case became moot.
Allan
Release date from Supermax for Padilla is April 2026.
Allan
the fact they were killed has nothing to do with whether or not they were entitled to due process. they were killed because they were enemies. enemies have no "due process other than what the international laws of war afford them, which forbid trying them except for war crimes and crimes committed while in captivity. and yes. Padilla, who is still held and can be held until the cessation of hostilities regardless of anything he may be charged with.
That is your opinion. SCOTUS would have a different and controlling opinion find the opposite.
That indeed a citizen of the United States cannot be held in a United States jail without criminal rights
Bestowed upon him.
Allan
except of course, that they did find he could be held as an enemy, heâs entitled to due process for the crimes heâs charged with. for the status of being an enemy there is no due process since its not illegal.
That is a minority opinion not held by SCOTUS.
Allan
The 5th amendment is why your opinion is in the minority.
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
See where itâs says in clear concise English âwithout due processâ
Allan
Lol where the hell did you pull that from?
The sad part is he is the best you have. Good Lord, weâre in a world of hurt.
WRONG!!!
When you leave the United States you lose your rights.
Freedom of religionâtry bringing a bible into Saudi Arabia.
Getting arrested in a foreign country do the police know the American citizens have to be read their Miranda rights.
Second amendmentâtry open carry in Canada and see how long you can do it.
See what I mean.
There is no due process for citizens in foreign countries.
We donât know how good we have it with our constitution.
Allan
