Undersea blasts in the Baltic: Did Biden follow through with threats to end NordStream 2?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

See, if the U.S. is going to blatantly escalate, why attack an idled pipeline? If this all ends tomorrow, Europe is going to want that gas again.

[Gaius]

@Bill.in.PA

Yes, there are a lot of theoretical possibilities. UFOs are reported to have undersea capabilities; we can’t rule that space aliens were responsible.

As far as alleged Russian involvement, there are obvious questions about why Putin would target his own pipeline and ignore the recently completed undersea pipeline that supplies Norwegian gas to Poland.
Jack Poso 🇺🇸 on GETTR : You see, Russia blew up their own pipeline but NOT the Norway-EU pipeline that’s right next to it and just opened today 65D undersea chess!

Yeah why would Putin shut down his own pipeline?

Something about pumps needing repats not coming back from Canada wasn’t it?

I figured he was lying then and that he actually wanted to shut down the pipeline.

What’s your guess. Maybe he was telling the truth and he really really wanted the pipeline open and was trying super hard to get that pump fixed?

[Munimula1]

Is he for real?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

Of course he is

[Bill.in.PA]

Yes, it is unlikely that Ukraine has the capability of blowing up the pipelines.

On the other hand, several of Ukraine’s NATO friends border the Baltic Sea. For example, Poland has a navy in the Baltic Sea that includes several submarines and surface ships.

Even before the recent escalation of the war in Ukraine, NATO leaders believed that these pipelines were a serious “international security threat”.

Russia’s state-owned Gazprom owns 100% of the project. The company has dumped billions of dollars to build these unnecessary pipelines, placing lavish orders with European suppliers. Will Gazprom ever get the money back? The Kremlin couldn’t care less. The project’s role is not commercial but geopolitical: to menace the world. That’s why the Kremlin spends so incessantly on redundant pipelines and fights so fiercely to get them going.

Putin’s pipeline is a strategic weapon. It must be stopped

[WuWei]

Yes. Interesting.

[Gaius]

@Bill.in.PA

Yes, it is unlikely that Ukraine has the capability of blowing up the pipelines.

On the other hand, several of Ukraine’s NATO friends border the Baltic Sea. For example, Poland has navy in the Baltic Sea that includes several submarines and surface ships.

Even before the result escalation in Ukraine, NATO leaders believed that theses pipelines were a serious “international security threat”.

Russia’s state-owned Gazprom owns 100% of the project. The company has dumped billions of dollars to build these unnecessary pipelines, placing lavish orders with European suppliers. Will Gazprom ever get the money back? The Kremlin couldn’t care less. The project’s role is not commercial but geopolitical: to menace the world. That’s why the Kremlin spends so incessantly on redundant pipelines and fights so fiercely to get them going.

Putin’s pipeline is a strategic weapon. It must be stopped - Atlantic Council

Whoever shut it (Nordstream1) down did not want it running.
Who shut it down?

I doubt the people who wanted it up and running blew it up.
That does not make sense.

[bigtwnvin]

But the Russians can blame someone else and use the ruse to escalate whatever the hell they’re trying to do.
Old saying: “Never, ever trust a Russian”

[Camp]

They sunk the Moskova.

Rupturing the pipeline would be easier.

Russia sabotaging the German company is also a possibility.

US is least likely IMO.

[SixFoot]

Anyone else notice the habit of libs re-truthing Trump across the internet lately? Told y’all they’d all sign up and follow him by the tail end.

[bigtwnvin]

Don’t discount the possibility that the pipelines are state owned by Russian energy Gazprom and the construction and materials may not of been of standard. If they built a ■■■■■■ pipeline and it blew apart under pressure?
Again, don’t trust the ■■■■■■■ Russians. They’ll lie and blame somebody else for their incompetence. Kind of like the J’Biden administration clown show?

[Munimula1]

@SixFoot

Anyone else notice the habit of libs re-truthing Trump across the internet lately? Told y’all they’d all sign up and follow him by the tail end.

Not a chance.

[SixFoot]

[Munimula1]

Nope- got it off Twitter, where some people do enjoy his hijinks.

[SixFoot]

Totes not your screen shot. Someone, uhh, else gave it to you! Yeah, that’s it!

[NJBob]

Ukraine does not have direct access to the Baltic, how could they have done it?

[JayJay]

I thought I read that even though the pipelines did have NG in them, they are not currently in use.

Not sure how that works…

[Camp]

Hire mercenaries that do.

[JayJay]

Both sides want a negotiated deal?

I don’t think so…

[STODR]

I think they need to keep pressure in it. Can’t just go dry. @Samm probably knows more