U.S. issues warning on airspace near Gulf as Iran tensions simmer

Smyrna · 2019-05-18T16:41:26.527Z

This concerns 4 ships that were “sabotaged” and it’s being labeled as an attack. If I were to wild ass guess this, I’d say it was Saudi Arabia with the intent of drawing the US into their ■■■■■

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2019-05-18T16:42:50.004Z

I’m just glad that a principled, sane non-mafia like guy is in charge of our military now.

calirepub · 2019-05-18T16:59:57.307Z

I’m sure a steady hand, like John Bolton’s, won’t get us into war with Iran.

Axxowiz · 2019-05-18T17:04:49.712Z

And if Trump starts a war in Iran I officially wash my hands of him. The no new war president was one of the few things he has going for him.

calirepub · 2019-05-18T17:08:16.658Z

Axxowiz:

And if Trump starts a war in Iran I officially wash my hands of him. The no new war president was one of the few things he has going for him.

What if it’s not his fault? If, through posturing, Iran sinks one of our ships or downs one of our aircraft, we would necessarily respond militarily.

Axxowiz · 2019-05-18T17:15:18.167Z

If our ships are fired on they should destroy the threat I mean like a full out war like Iraq, not a skirmish.

calirepub · 2019-05-18T17:20:03.793Z

Axxowiz:

If our ships are fired on they should destroy the threat I mean like a full out war like Iraq, not a skirmish.

That seems to be where we’re headed. Hopefully everyone has steady hands, but accidents happen when tensions are high. Bolton wants regime change, and sanctions aren’t working. We might have to accomplish this goal Iraq style.

calirepub · 2019-05-18T17:21:55.189Z

If I was being nefarious I might suggest Bolton/Trump is intentionally sending troops into the area to provoke Iran into war. It’s almost like those American lives are the sacrifice needed to get the war that certain people want.

SixFoot · 2019-05-18T17:41:38.358Z

Iraq was cat and mouse games. There was nothing full out war about it.

Well, full out stupidity, maybe, but not war.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2019-05-18T17:47:56.613Z

SixFoot:

Iraq was cat and mouse games. There was nothing full out war about it.

Well, full out stupidity, maybe, but not war.

Especially if all out war means indesiminate killing of civilians.

SixFoot · 2019-05-18T17:48:44.865Z

All combat operations involve dead civilians. One of many reasons to save it for last.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2019-05-18T17:53:58.490Z

SixFoot:

All combat operations involve dead civilians. One of many reasons to save it for last.

Don’t go down that path. There are different kinds of war. Just because 100 civilians get killed in one war and a million in another doesn’t mean they’re the same thing.

Your ex military correct?

SixFoot · 2019-05-18T17:58:18.529Z

I speak from a Combat Infantryman’s perspective. Take that knowledge for what it’s worth.

calirepub · 2019-05-18T18:14:04.023Z

If we’re going to take Iran we need to do it like Daenerys took King’s Landing.

7ranz · 2019-05-18T18:26:45.890Z

The empire is hungry.

WuWei · 2019-05-18T18:27:20.419Z

NuffSaid:

flexing his fat

five points

WuWei · 2019-05-18T18:28:07.787Z

CaughtInTheMiddle:

SixFoot:

All combat operations involve dead civilians. One of many reasons to save it for last.

Don’t go down that path. There are different kinds of war. Just because 100 civilians get killed in one war and a million in another doesn’t mean they’re the same thing.

Your ex military correct?

He’s right. You’re wrong.

7ranz · 2019-05-18T18:28:55.341Z

Going after Iran and Venezuala isn’t very subtle.

SixFoot · 2019-05-18T18:34:13.942Z

In other news regarding the geopolitical shifts in motion:

Yahoo News

Taiwan says China has stepped up infiltration efforts

Tsai, speaking to reporters after a national security meeting, said China's influence operations included attempts to interfere with elections and fake news campaigns. Tsai also said Taiwan would deter military aggression in the Taiwan Strait,...

“TAIPEI (Reuters) - Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen said on Friday that China has stepped up efforts to infiltrate and gain influence in the self-ruled and democratic island, and asked national security agencies to counter the campaign.”

If everyone ends up getting the lands they’ve been eyeballing, I’m just gonna have to Crimea River.

Plasmaball · 2019-05-18T18:50:49.914Z

If it wasn’t Bolton I’d agree with you