Joe withholds a billion in financial aid to Ukraine to protect Hunter.
Donald withholds hundreds of millions to Ukraine until they spill on Hunter.
We thought the swamp was getting drained!! Pot meet Kettle.
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Except the Biden story is wildly out of context, and thatâs the point, the less people know the better it is for Trump. So itâs Biden Biden Biden corruption ukraine Biden corrupt Biden ukraine hunter biden corrupt biden biden biden. and nothing about the circumstances around things.
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One problem with your theory, there was no quid pro quo for Trump and his family.
Ukraine, now under an anti Putin Govât got the aid package without launching a new investigation and there was no return âfavorâ.;
CassandraJoe:
WataminnitâŚâŚIf VP Biden withheld aid (can he do that?) to protect his son from a corruption investigation, there must have been some basis for the investigation and U.S. Intelligence and U.S. diplomats surely must have had some information about it. The communications get pretty specific about that stuff, to include bank account numbers, specific laws broken, accomplices, etc.
And if U.S. officials knew the specifics then, why donât they know now?
And if they DO know Ukrainian laws Hunter Biden broke, why are they being cagey and asking Ukraine to do the investigation for them? If the U.S. diplomatic staff has information on criminal activity of an American overseas, shouldnât they share it - not just with the Ukrainians, but with the public as well? This isnât National Security Secret information. And the President has the authority to declassify it.
So if the U.S. has evidence of criminal activity by Hunter Biden, why donât they just come out with it?
Get your logic and reason out of here! This is Trumpland, we donât use such things!
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57Nomad
September 23, 2019, 6:16am
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CassandraJoe:
And I do feel kinda sorry for the Ukrainians.
I mean, they start with a President who is outrageously corrupt - transferring Russian aid money directly into his personal bank account - and they boot him out in a civil insurrection.
Then they get a president who is kind of corrupt - with one official approaching the Vice President of the U.S. saying, âYou know, it would be too bad if something bad happened to your son here just because we didnât get enough foreign aid from your government.â
The Obama administration leans of the Ukrainians to get rid of their corrupt officials, and sure enough, they elect a new President from neither party who promises reforms.
So the new Ukrainian President is happily fighting corruption and instituting reforms when heâs approached by an envoy of the new U.S. President who tells him, âGolly it would be a shame if something happened to the Military Aid our Congress gave you, just because you arenât prosecuting the son of our Presidentâs political opponent.â
Under Obama, Ukraine is too corrupt. Under Trump, Ukraine isnât corrupt enough
Canât win fer losinâ, I guess.
I tried to explain that in another thread and got the classic ââfake newsââ reply then a whole lot of jibber jabber. Trumpheads donât like facts.
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CassandraJoe:
WataminnitâŚâŚIf VP Biden withheld aid (can he do that?) to protect his son from a corruption investigation, there must have been some basis for the investigation and U.S. Intelligence and U.S. diplomats surely must have had some information about it. The communications get pretty specific about that stuff, to include bank account numbers, specific laws broken, accomplices, etc.
And if U.S. officials knew the specifics then, why donât they know now?
And if they DO know Ukrainian laws Hunter Biden broke, why are they being cagey and asking Ukraine to do the investigation for them? If the U.S. diplomatic staff has information on criminal activity of an American overseas, shouldnât they share it - not just with the Ukrainians, but with the public as well? This isnât National Security Secret information. And the President has the authority to declassify it.
So if the U.S. has evidence of criminal activity by Hunter Biden, why donât they just come out with it?
Because Hunter didnât really break any laws. It was the classic âdonât bribe me, bribe my familyâ thing many politicians think is ok.
They canât give the money to Joe⌠that would be a bribe! So they take real good care of his kid, give him an outlandish salary for a job he doesnât come close to qualifying for.
You think Joe REALLY cares if some justice in the Ukraine is a sleazeball? Or is it more likely that Joe cared that said sleazeball was investigating his sons sweatheart source of money?
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WildRose:
One problem with your theory, there was no quid pro quo for Trump and his family.
Ukraine, now under an anti Putin Govât got the aid package without launching a new investigation and there was no return âfavorâ.;
Why did Trump withhold the funds that were approved by Congress?
Piglet
September 23, 2019, 8:43am
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Because how the left reacts to the suspicion, when it applies to one of their own with video proof, becomes publicly comparable to their behaviour when the suspicion was projected against those not their own without any proof, and their obvious hypocrisy will publicly indict them.
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BlueTex
September 23, 2019, 1:10pm
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Piglet:
Because how the left reacts to the suspicion, when it applies to one of their own with video proof, becomes publicly comparable to their behaviour when the suspicion was projected against those not their own without any proof, and their obvious hypocrisy will publicly indict them.
Shall we just summarize this as the Trump administration to cowardly to indict Hunter?
Piglet
September 23, 2019, 1:10pm
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CassandraJoe:
UmmmâŚyou know the President is a Republican, right?
And your example makes it even MORE likely that the Republican President would release that suspicious information in order to ensure his re-election.
If he had any information.
Umm. Heâs anti-globalist. Heâs not as stupid as your regular globalists among the Democrats and the Republicans. Donât assume you are the ultimate measure of âcleverâ.
Piglet
September 23, 2019, 1:11pm
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You probably will. I wouldnât.
BlueTex
September 23, 2019, 1:12pm
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Then why are they not indicting Hunter Biden?
adroit
September 23, 2019, 1:26pm
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you misspelled âto oust a corrupt prosecutor that was soliciting bribes and was wanted out of his position by the US and several EU governments.â
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adroit
September 23, 2019, 1:33pm
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Steel-W0LF:
Because Hunter didnât really break any laws. It was the classic âdonât bribe me, bribe my familyâ thing many politicians think is ok.
They canât give the money to Joe⌠that would be a bribe! So they take real good care of his kid, give him an outlandish salary for a job he doesnât come close to qualifying for.
Hunter was on the Board of a handful of organizations prior to Burisma. Can you explain why you think he wasnât qualified? What responsibilities as a board member did he lack the qualifications for?
It was the official foreign policy position of the US, several EU governments and NGOs to get him removed. There was no active investigation into Burisma at the time.
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LOL! You donât really believe this, do you?
Camp
September 23, 2019, 1:46pm
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Wait until D voters see this oneâŚThey will be pulling the lever for Sanders or Warren instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCF9My1vBP4
BlueTex
September 23, 2019, 1:48pm
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Is Russian Today your daily news source?
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Camp
September 23, 2019, 1:49pm
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I was hoping that you would notice.
Russia vs Ukraine and the truth still comes out.
BlueTex
September 23, 2019, 1:50pm
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Lol⌠Iâm just curious why you choose that news source? Native language?
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