Two of the DUMBEST liberal ideas you will EVER hear

[WuWei]

@SottoVoce

Substitute defund to reallocate if that makes it easier

It makes the claim accurate.

[SottoVoce]

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

Substitute defund to reallocate if that makes it easier

It makes the claim accurate.

Again, “defund” does not mean all funds have to be removed. Any removal of funds is defunding.

Politicians, especially republicans it seems, love to use “defund” as an absolute. Defund Planned Parenthood, NEA, PBS, WHO, Obamacare, etc. Perceived common use may lead to perceived solitary definition, but that simply is not true.

Again though, read the words of those asking for defunding and let their definition be what matters.

[WuWei]

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

Substitute defund to reallocate if that makes it easier

It makes the claim accurate.

Again, “defund” does not mean all funds have to be removed. Any removal of funds is defunding.

Politicians, especially republicans it seems, love to use “defund” as an absolute. Defund Planned Parenthood, NEA, PBS, WHO, Obamacare, etc. Perceived common use may lead to perceived solitary definition, but that simply is not true.

Again though, read the words of those asking for defunding and let their definition be what matters.

Pro Tip: If you have to explain it with a Rolling Stone article, it’s not a good chant.

[Weedhopper]

I’m sure they’re a bunch of those idiots that fell for the Russian collusion lie.

[SottoVoce]

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

Substitute defund to reallocate if that makes it easier

It makes the claim accurate.

Again, “defund” does not mean all funds have to be removed. Any removal of funds is defunding.

Politicians, especially republicans it seems, love to use “defund” as an absolute. Defund Planned Parenthood, NEA, PBS, WHO, Obamacare, etc. Perceived common use may lead to perceived solitary definition, but that simply is not true.

Again though, read the words of those asking for defunding and let their definition be what matters.

Pro Tip: If you have to explain it with a Rolling Stone article, it’s not a good chant.

Rolling Stone had nothing to do with it. The person talking in the Rolling Stone article giving a first person explanation was what matters.

Here you go. Same idea. Not Rolling Stone.

Protesters, officials call for police to be defunded

On Wednesday in Phoenix, protesters carried signs calling for the defunding of police. That same day in Seattle, demonstrators carried “Black Lives Matter” signs, calling for cuts to the police department’s budget and shifting the money to social programs.

Protesters have also called for budget cuts in New York City, Philadelphia and Los Angeles.

Defunding the police means reallocating money budgeted for the agencies and instead, putting it toward other causes.

If you can’t trust Fox, who can you trust?

[WuWei]

@SottoVoce

If you can’t trust Fox, who can you trust?

I trust myself.

[Ceasar]

@altair1013

1. Defund to police and disarm citizens. So when the police are needed to defend you, they won’t be showing up. And you will not be permitted to defend yourself either. No defense, no hope. That’s just fence post stupid.

The next one is even dumber. Too dumb to even make up.

2. Black Lives Matter “Peace Officers.” This may be one of the most moronic ideas I’ve ever heard. As part of their “war on Police,” these armed Peace officers will patrol areas and respond when they believe an arrest is unjust or going bad. What imbecile came up with the idea to have armed citizens interfere with police duties? There is a name for people who point guns at cops. They’re called dead people.

The left has lost what little mind they had left.

Almost as dumb as no bail…

[W_and_C]

That’s how Trump and congressional Repubs win the suburbs back.

[markdido]

Defund? Hell! Minneapolis wants to disband thepolice deprtment all together!

Minneapolis City Council is seriously weighing disbanding the police

How are they going to accomplish that?

"“I don’t know yet, though several of us on the council are working on finding out, what it would take to disband the [Minneapolis Police Department] and start fresh with a community-oriented, non-violent public safety and outreach capacity,” said Steve Fletcher, a council member who represents the city’s Ward 3, which covers parts of downtown, on Twitter.

Yeah, that will prevent the rapes, robberies, drive-bys and murders,.

[Impenitent]

the space force needs more funding…

[Smyrna]

The better idea would be for black men to become police officers and they be the ones to patrol and keep the peace in the areas they grew up in. They know it better than anyone else and they’d be the perfect candidates for the job. Just step up and take on the responsibility plus get paid to do it?

[Mountain_Soldier]

So defund doesn’t mean defund? That’s some pretty good gymnastics there.

[Mountain_Soldier]

@SottoVoce

@WuWei

@SottoVoce

I’d think Republicans would be very familiar with the tactic of their leaders making outrageous and untenable claims to both rile up their base and inflame the opposition. Seems they don’t like being on the inflamed (or is it snowflake?) side.

“Defund” doesn’t mean removing all police funding. This is not Trump and the WHO. This “defund” means reallocating funds to other organizations. Remember when Trump decided to reallocate or “defund” $3.6 billion in Defense Department funds for his border wall? Didn’t see too many crying here over that.

Don’t take my word for it.

What Defund the Police Actually Means – Rolling Stone

that’s a fine bit of radicalsplainin’

If you take money away from the police, which I am not opposed to, and give it to medical, day care whatever, and you do it enough, that’s exactly what it means.

They aren’t saying “Reallocate the budget!” “Spend less on cops”.

When you defund something, that means you ain’t funding it no more.

Defund - to withdraw funding from. There is no stipulation that all funding is removed. Any withdrawal of funds is defunding. The article quotes some of the people asking for defunding saying exactly that. Substitute defund to reallocate if that makes it easier. In this context they’re the same. And yes, that’s exactly what they’re asking for.

If you take money away from police departments which would have been allocated to non-essential programs, are you hurting essential programs? Have there been credible calls for reductions in essential police programs? If some police departments have done a poor job with situational training, community outreach, etc., why wouldn’t you use those funds to see if it could be done more efficiently and effectively by outside parties.

If a private contractor can do something better and more effectively than the government, do we refuse to allocate government funds? Do private contractors hinder the readiness and effectiveness of the military? Cynicism aside, is the goal of private contracts to provide better use of taxpayer money?

So take money from the police and give it to black people? Like they’re doing in LA?

[Mountain_Soldier]

@markdido

Defund? Hell! Minneapolis wants to disband thepolice deprtment all together!

Minneapolis City Council is seriously weighing disbanding the police - TheBlaze

How are they going to accomplish that?

"“I don’t know yet, though several of us on the council are working on finding out, what it would take to disband the [Minneapolis Police Department] and start fresh with a community-oriented, non-violent public safety and outreach capacity,” said Steve Fletcher, a council member who represents the city’s Ward 3, which covers parts of downtown, on Twitter.

Yeah, that will prevent the rapes, robberies, drive-bys and murders,.

That’s good. I’m guessing the same people supporting this are also anti-2nd amendment and for draconian firearm laws. That’s a stellar combination.

[altair1013]

@TheRedComet

That’s a stupid plan.

I would increase actually increase funding for better training, better pay, and better benefits. Increase their knowledge of the law, how to better deescalate situations, and improve their quality of life.

I believe firmly that a happy worker is a good worker. The same would work for the police. A happy police officer, who is also better trained, is more likely to be a better police officer.

Exactly. 600,000 police officers and the amount of verified abuse is incredibly low.

[altair1013]

@Mountain_Soldier

So take money from the police and give it to black people? Like they’re doing in LA?

And what is that supposed to do? Help make people self sufficient? Or help assure they remain on government assistance where the dems like them?

[SottoVoce]

@Mountain_Soldier

So defund doesn’t mean defund? That’s some pretty good gymnastics there.

Gymnastics? What is it called when someone refuses to identify the meaning of a word in the context of those using it? As in “defund” and those asking to defund the police? I gave two separate articles giving extremely straightforward meanings for “defund” by first or second person accounts.

Again, from that liberal trash Fox…

Defunding the police means reallocating money budgeted for the agencies and instead, putting it toward other causes.

[altair1013]

@SottoVoce

Defunding the police means reallocating money budgeted for the agencies and instead, putting it toward other causes.

To some maybe. To you maybe. To many it means ending the police presence completely. Right? How much funding do the police need to maintain adequate training, manpower and services? Has anybody considered this?

[conan]

I really hope libs push this ■■■■ hard comes Nov. I really do.

Now what’s your alternative?

[SottoVoce]

[quote=“Mountain_Soldier, post:33, topic:231869, full:true”]So take money from the police and give it to black people? Like they’re doing in LA?
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This is from the Blaze. You probably should dismiss it as liberal lies.

Article says LAPD budget is $3.1 billion (other sources say $1.8). Budget cuts/reallocations total $150 million. Those funds would go to mental health care, housing and other social services. If you want to say mental health care, housing and other social services is “giving it to black people” I guess you can. Maybe you can share some info where those services will be exclusive to blacks only.