Twenty years of deception and lies about Afghanistan and the Middle East?

thinkingman · 2021-08-20T00:55:43.332Z

“America is back. Diplomacy is back at the center of our foreign policy. We will repair our alliances.“

—Biden

tzu · 2021-08-20T13:17:36.796Z

Meh.

The interpreters, guides and local fixers were paid collaborators. The Talib don’t have to be good dudes. They took over. It is what it is. And after you take over, you deal with collaborators. Moral pissing and sneezing into the dark notwithstanding.

WuWei · 2021-08-21T20:27:43.454Z

Yep, they shouldn’t have trusted us.

Talib is singular.

DisturbedGuy · 2021-08-21T20:53:08.124Z

It is a mess for sure. I do think there is still time to get everyone out. We are up to 6,000 people a day. It’s increaing every day as we get better. We should have the capacity to get at least 132,000 people out by the deadline and Biden has hinted at staying longer if necessary. I’m going to reserve judgment until we see where we end up.

STODR · 2021-08-21T21:22:44.613Z

Where did you here 6000 a day? I have seen we have that capacity but are only doing about 2000. 6000 would be nice if true.

DisturbedGuy · 2021-08-21T21:42:22.265Z

STODR:

Where did you here 6000 a day? I have seen we have that capacity but are only doing about 2000. 6000 would be nice if true.

They haven’t posted today’s numbers.

Yahoo Finance

Biden: 5,700 evacuated from Afghanistan in last 24 hours

Yahoo Finance’s Jessica Smith breaks down President Biden’s remarks regarding U.S. evacuation from Afghanistan.

CanadianJudo · 2021-08-21T21:43:29.909Z

is that just US, or everyone I know Germany is flying people out too.

WuWei · 2021-08-21T22:59:03.376Z

timesofisrael.com

Hezbollah chief: Israel should learn from Afghanistan that US is unreliable

'Those watching most closely and drawing conclusions from this are the Israelis,' Hassan Nasrallah says after Taliban takeover

Mmmmm

WuWei · 2021-08-22T14:43:11.497Z

What an absolute goat rope…

Fox Business

Pentagon compels commercial airlines to help with Afghanistan evacuation

The Department of Defense will compel commercial airlines to help with the evacuation of Afghans and U.S. personnel from Afghanistan.

DisturbedGuy · 2021-08-22T15:00:15.000Z

WuWei:

What an absolute goat rope…

Pentagon compels commercial airlines to help with Afghanistan evacuation | Fox Business

It’s not a bad idea…gives them the ability to get more people out.

WuWei · 2021-08-22T15:13:11.700Z

DisturbedGuy:

WuWei:

What an absolute goat rope…

Pentagon compels commercial airlines to help with Afghanistan evacuation | Fox Business

It’s not a bad idea…gives them the ability to get more people out.

hwyflier · 2021-08-22T15:58:53.239Z

They’re not flying into Kabul. They’re picking up from all the scattered sites out of country.

Not even sure why they had to be asked. Everyone is all patriotic sending them in, happy to get their brand on the war then, why not now?

WuWei · 2021-08-22T16:00:54.306Z

hwyflier:

They’re not flying into Kabul. They’re picking up from all the scattered sites out of country.

Not even sure why they had to be asked. Everyone is all patriotic sending them in, happy to get their brand on the war then, why not now?

Sure, not today.

Is going in the same as getting run out?

DisturbedGuy · 2021-08-22T16:01:59.083Z

WuWei:

hwyflier:

They’re not flying into Kabul. They’re picking up from all the scattered sites out of country.

Not even sure why they had to be asked. Everyone is all patriotic sending them in, happy to get their brand on the war then, why not now?

Sure, not today.

Is going in the same as getting run out?

Leaving was going to leave a power vacuum either way.

DMK · 2021-08-22T16:03:05.615Z

DisturbedGuy:

Leaving was going to leave a power vacuum either way.

So, everything is okay, huh?

WuWei · 2021-08-22T16:04:00.109Z

DisturbedGuy:

WuWei:

hwyflier:

They’re not flying into Kabul. They’re picking up from all the scattered sites out of country.

Not even sure why they had to be asked. Everyone is all patriotic sending them in, happy to get their brand on the war then, why not now?

Sure, not today.

Is going in the same as getting run out?

Leaving was going to leave a power vacuum either way.

Do you truly not understand the “power vacuum” is not the issue?

WuWei · 2021-08-22T16:05:55.578Z

DMK:

So, everything is okay, huh?

tenor (2)

DisturbedGuy · 2021-08-22T16:10:52.398Z

WuWei:

DMK:

So, everything is okay, huh?

I’ve already stated it’s a mess, doesn’t mean it’s beyond repair.

WuWei · 2021-08-22T16:12:17.113Z

DisturbedGuy:

doesn’t mean it’s beyond repair.

How do you think Jbiden Inc is going to “repair this”?

DisturbedGuy · 2021-08-22T16:15:19.193Z

WuWei:

DisturbedGuy:

doesn’t mean it’s beyond repair.

How do you think Jbiden Inc is going to “repair this”?

By getting everyone out. Is that not the goal?