Tulsa race riots

WuWei · 2021-06-02T10:51:29.257Z

sikofit:

DougBH:

Umm…that would make him 119 years old.

Yes. You can read

The oldest person in the US is 114.

WuWei · 2021-06-02T10:51:54.601Z

biggestal99:

PurpnGold:

We still talk about the civil war. Holocaust. CRA. Pearl Harbor. 9/11

Never mind the Japanese interment of 1942.

Reparations were paid on that atrocity.

Why not this one?

Allan

That one was policy.

JayJay · 2021-06-02T11:52:47.455Z

Steel-W0LF:

PurpnGold:

Steel-W0LF:

To the main topic of this thread, I have a question?

How many here saying the blacks that went armed and were innocent were in the Kyle Rittenhouse threads saying he was there looking for trouble?

Just curious

Uh what? Is this serious?

Yes.

Other than skin tone what was the difference?

Why was Kyle going armed to a protest, getting in a struggle for his gun and defending himself, a guy looking for trouble that wanted to shoot people; while at the same time armed blacks going to a protest, getting in a struggle for a gun and defending themselves, just guys trying to protect someone and innocent of all wrongdoing?

The blacks weren’t going to a protest.

They were going to the jail to assure that someone being held there wasn’t lynched. They didn’t just take charge…they checked in with the authorities first.

When told by the authorities that they had everything under control, the blacks started to leave. (And btw in those days, the blacks had no reason to trust the authorities…but they did here anyway).

Did Kyle Rittenhouse do any of this?

Did he check in with the authorities? Did he ask if his help was needed?

Did he stand down once he was told his help wasn’t needed?

JayJay · 2021-06-02T11:59:37.019Z

conan:

Read the thread Tommy…and leave your emotions at the door.

Why should he read the thread when it’s clear you haven’t even read your own source material?

gooddad409 · 2021-06-02T12:01:47.685Z

DougBH:

Absolutely not. This riot is brought up intermittently and has been my entire life.

Look at the OP. It is being used politically.
There is also no problem in not bringing it up today.

OP: …until recently the riot was mostly forgotten as the state of Oklahoma basically itnored it happened"…false…it was no way forgotten for something happening that long ago.

OP “…even on the anniversary today you wont find alot of mention of it in convervative (sic) media.
Its because of things like this that black americans feel the country is still racist.”

Now does that sound like a little memorial to a past tragedy? No…something a hundred years ago is being brought up and used for political attack purposes.

That is the cause of the reaction.

If the day were remembered with a plaque being put up in Tulsa and an article in the paper about it, that would have been fine.
Its obvious how this is being used.

The OP is clearly talking pts/narrative.

The dems/media want to keep their voters distracted and angry.

Those who enjoy being angry went for it of course.

WuWei · 2021-06-02T12:14:20.016Z

JayJay:

Did Kyle Rittenhouse do any of this?

He didn’t need to.

JayJay · 2021-06-02T12:14:56.970Z

WuWei:

JayJay:

Did Kyle Rittenhouse do any of this?

He didn’t need to.

If we are going to make a like for like comparison he did.

JayJay · 2021-06-02T12:18:05.955Z

The OP was challenging and told a story.

Some here reacted quite badly to that challenge.

WuWei · 2021-06-02T12:18:45.619Z

JayJay:

WuWei:

JayJay:

Did Kyle Rittenhouse do any of this?

He didn’t need to.

If we are going to make a like for like comparison he did.

No, he didn’t.

Borgia_dude · 2021-06-02T12:19:31.040Z

WuWei:

JayJay:

WuWei:

JayJay:

Did Kyle Rittenhouse do any of this?

He didn’t need to.

If we are going to make a like for like comparison he did.

No, he didn’t.

So we agree the comparison is invalid then.

WuWei · 2021-06-02T12:24:10.428Z

More soldiers from that era

The World from PRX

Remembering the black soldiers executed after Houston's 1917 race riot

On Dec. 11, 1917, a group of 13 black soldiers were hanged for their part in a little-remembered and deadly race riot. They were condemned to death after a trial many called unjust. Now, relatives on both sides of that Houston riot are uniting to...

Brownsville

en.m.wikipedia.org

Brownsville affair

The Brownsville affair, or the Brownsville raid, was an incident of racial discrimination that occurred in 1906 in the southwestern United States due to resentment by white residents of Brownsville, Texas, of the Buffalo Soldiers, black soldiers in a segregated unit stationed at nearby Fort Brown. When a white bartender was killed and a white police officer wounded by gunshots one night, townspeople accused the members of the African-American 25th Infantry Regiment. Although their commanders sa...

The evidence wasn’t planted, they did it.

Moral of the stories is armed vets can fight back.

WuWei · 2021-06-02T12:25:32.963Z

Borgia_dude:

So we agree the comparison is invalid then.

No, we don’t. Anything can be compared to anything. There are similarities and dissimilarities.

Borgia_dude · 2021-06-02T12:26:15.655Z

Some interesting context for the Tulsa massacre…

Yahoo News

Two years before the Tulsa massacre, the 'Red Summer' saw white mobs murder...

The Tulsa Race Massacre of 1921, one of the worst acts of racial violence in U.S. history. But two years prior to the carnage in Tulsa, another violent wave of hate took hold in the country.

Other atrocities had occurred across the country a bit earlier.

WuWei · 2021-06-02T12:28:40.964Z

Yep. Two generations after the civil war.

Grandpa’s stories.

Borgia_dude · 2021-06-02T12:32:55.503Z

WuWei:

Yep. Two generations after the civil war.

Grandpa’s stories.

These killings happened two years before the Tulsa massacre. They provide some context for it.

WuWei · 2021-06-02T12:34:01.118Z

Borgia_dude:

WuWei:

Yep. Two generations after the civil war.

Grandpa’s stories.

These killings happened two years before the Tulsa massacre. They provide some context for it.

Absolutely. I was agreeing with you. The lynching of the white go 11 months prior does as well.

Jamerican · 2021-06-02T14:50:22.023Z

Borgia_dude:

Other atrocities had occurred across the country a bit earlier.

During reconstruction and post reconstruction was a blood bath.
Most of it was a bunch of jealous racists who wanted to feel more important along with not wanting to share power, resources and responsibility, but some of it was government(local and federal) sanctioned terrorism. The government should have did more during reconstruction and allowed it to run it’s course. Unfortunately, the Hayes v. Tilden compromise happened in which the GOP got their wish to hold onto power by getting the White house and the Democrats got their wish in holding onto power in the south. Power that became open season on all those that didn’t look like them. This is why I will continue to say, both party’s in many ways over the course of American history has played a hand in undermining the black community.

From the evil of the Dems of the south during and after reconstruction, to the betrayal by the GOP during the Hayes v. Tilden compromise all the way to BS voting laws to restrict eligible voters in 2021, this country has never been kind to the black community or any community the powers that be deem lesser than.

What happened in the Greenwood section of Tulsa is one of many, many examples of that.

Steel-W0LF · 2021-06-02T14:54:03.765Z

JayJay:

Steel-W0LF:

PurpnGold:

Steel-W0LF:

To the main topic of this thread, I have a question?

How many here saying the blacks that went armed and were innocent were in the Kyle Rittenhouse threads saying he was there looking for trouble?

Just curious

Uh what? Is this serious?

Yes.

Other than skin tone what was the difference?

Why was Kyle going armed to a protest, getting in a struggle for his gun and defending himself, a guy looking for trouble that wanted to shoot people; while at the same time armed blacks going to a protest, getting in a struggle for a gun and defending themselves, just guys trying to protect someone and innocent of all wrongdoing?

The blacks weren’t going to a protest.

They were going to the jail to assure that someone being held there wasn’t lynched. They didn’t just take charge…they checked in with the authorities first.

When told by the authorities that they had everything under control, the blacks started to leave. (And btw in those days, the blacks had no reason to trust the authorities…but they did here anyway).

Did Kyle Rittenhouse do any of this?

Did he check in with the authorities? Did he ask if his help was needed?

Did he stand down once he was told his help wasn’t needed?

In both cases folks were carrying guns into a charged environment. In both cases the armed individual(s) were attempting to leave when attacked. In both cases the initial armed individuals were there thinking they needed to protect something the police wouldn’t/couldn’t protect.

For the record, I’ve not stated that I thought the armed folks attempting to protect the guy in Tulsa were wrong. I don’t think they were in the wrong. But then again, I have a consistent position that doesn’t change based on skin tone.

TheRedComet · 2021-06-02T15:05:41.332Z

I believe he was. I’m not sure what his role was though.

MacArthur gave the order to assault their shanty town and Patton led the assault.

PurpnGold · 2021-06-02T15:09:30.211Z

Steel-W0LF:

In both cases folks were carrying guns into a charged environment. In both cases the armed individual(s) were attempting to leave when attacked. In both cases the initial armed individuals were there thinking they needed to protect something the police wouldn’t/couldn’t protect.

Which one ended in a massacre and a complete leveling of a town based on racism?