That is exactly the values and level of competence that we look for in our Chief Executive… a moral and ethical compass that is unsure if something is illegal.
Obama thought he got to decide whether congress was in session or not, and he was supposed to be a constitutional scholar. Shame SCOTUS slapped him down so hard his ears are probably still ringing, otherwise Trump would never have to worry about being impeached, he could just declare that congress wasn’t in session every time they tried to impeach him.
Oh now Democrats want the laws faithfully executed, funny, they didn’t when Obama was President and passing out get out of jail free cards to dreamers.
It’s illegal if you insist on it after being told you can’t, to the point the guy you tell to do it has to threaten to resign (McGahn) unless you shut the hell up about it.
Love to see the statute backing that one up. By all means show me where in the law it is laid out that it becomes illegal if you insist until someone threatens to quit.
Repetitive demands after you’ve been informed that the act is illegal goes to intent. Like conspiracy, obstruction can be committed through even an unsuccessful attempt.
Overt coercion via the means of of threats such as firing or physical harm can and has been used to indict individuals for obstruction of justice. There is some precedence there.
From what ive read here. Those defending Heir Trump, they seem to believe that because the persons he ordered to do certain illegal things did not carry it out, that absolves him.
They go further to suggest he didnt realize coercing someome to interfere in an investigation so therefore he shouldnt be culpable. One person even suggested he couldnt be coercing someone because he knew he was innocent and just wanted to heal the nation lmao.
Now where it all comes to a stop in this particular case is having enough provable evidence that he did indeed actually coerce said actions by threat, a fact of which is unknown since to this point no one has said he did that only that he told them to. And id be surprised if those people did actually admit to as much in house testimony.
All in all, most of the elements are there, but its not quite enough yet, and then there is that pesky DOJ policy regarding sitting presidents, which is a large reason why Mueller stopped short of where he did.
Id say looking at it on the whole, one would need to ask themselves why someone would take such extraordinary means to do everything they can to make themselves look so great when they claim to have done nothing wrong.