Politics and an imaginary axe Brandon has to grind with Trump.

Trump needs to run just to goad Brandon into running again.

I think you are going to be very happy very soon…DJT.

No you don’t.

All you know is "the narrative " and because it’s about trump you have decided to run with "the narrative ".

Never learned after the first 5000 tries.

Did you get trump yet??

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Blah, blah, blah.

You know less than Jon Snow.

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We know because of what has been filed in court and the responses from Trump’s lawyers.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/64911367/trump-v-united-states/

Are classified documents government property, yes or no?

Are Presidential records as defined in the Presidential Records Act of 1978 government property, yes or no?

For a private citizen what are the access requirements to classified information?
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The answer to those questions can be found in the actual court documents and in the United States Code linked above. If you would like a link to 18 USC 793(e) let me know, I’ll be happy to help.

WW

They know everything…top secret and all.

Lots of things are filed in court.

Like the carter page FISA for instance.

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Except that we have Trump’s lawyer’s filings.

Guess what that says.

Trump does not understand, or is intentionally trying to obfuscate, the difference between Presidential Records and personal records. Here are the differences between Presidential Records and Personal Records. There is no way that intel documents could be considered “personal records”. It doesn’t matter whether or not they are classified or not. Under the PRA Trump has no right to possess the documents.

(2) The term “Presidential records” means documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, created or received by the President, the President’s immediate staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise or assist the President, in the course of conducting activities which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President. Such term–

(A) includes any documentary materials relating to the political activities of the President or members of the President’s staff, but only if such activities relate to or have a direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President; but

(B) does not include any documentary materials that are (i) official records of an agency (as defined in section 552(e) of title 5, United States Code; (ii) personal records; (iii) stocks of publications and stationery; or (iv) extra copies of documents produced only for convenience of reference, when such copies are clearly so identified.

(3) The term “personal records” means all documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, of a purely private or nonpublic character which do not relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President. Such term includes–

(A) diaries, journals, or other personal notes serving as the functional equivalent of a diary or journal which are not prepared or utilized for, or circulated or communicated in the course of, transacting Government business;

(B) materials relating to private political associations, and having no relation to or direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President; and

(C) materials relating exclusively to the President’s own election to the office of the Presidency; and materials directly relating to the election of a particular individual or individuals to Federal, State, or local office, which have no relation to or direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President.

How does it show that?

No Trump himself admitted it at his Nevada rally.

Is Trump part of the narrative spinning?

Has Barron got his Pokémon cards back yet?

I’m not sure if this has been posted already - but another reflexive defense of Trump put forward by multiple posters here has once again been blown up by reality:

@RTchoke @Ben_Natuf

People should be paying attention to what Trump’s legal team is not saying in court.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/10/12/maralago-witness-trump-boxes-moved/

From the article:

A Trump employee has told federal agents about moving boxes of documents at Mar-a-Lago at the specific direction of the former president, according to people familiar with the investigation, who say the witness account — combined with security-camera footage — offers key evidence of Donald Trump’s behavior as investigators sought the return of classified material.

Multiple witnesses have told the FBI they tried to talk Trump into cooperating with the National Archives and Records Administration and the Justice Department as those agencies for months sought the return of sensitive or historical government records, people familiar with the situation said. But entreaties from advisers and lawyers who pushed for Trump to hand the documents back fell on deaf ears with Trump, these people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations. Trump grew angry this spring after a House Oversight Committee investigation was launched, telling aides they’d “screwed up” the situation, according to people who heard his comments. “They’re my documents,” Trump said, according to an aide who spoke to him.

Another account that Trump has refereed to the documents as his documents.

Lots of things get lost too.

Oops, no big (D)eal. :wink:

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apparently the only thing blown up is your TDS

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:rofl:

I think you missed some of the salient details of that article.

Or maybe you’ve forgotten your fevered defenses of Trump from back in August - could be either one.

i defended nothing, i asked question that were not fitting your narrative.

several mistakes here, the first one is cnn

:rofl:

It’s a shame we can’t quote posts from the closed thread. But I’ve cut and pasted a few of yours.

theft? thats funny. boxes packed up by GSA. nobody stole anything.

So the GSA inadvertantly shipped documents to MAL and that somehow equates to Trump “stealing” them.

Trump didn’t “steal” anything, the GSA packed the boxes and sent them to MAL.

There are plenty more…

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