Trump's home raided by FBI agents (Part 1)

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

there was no theft.

At some point it is. He has no right to have them.

One would think that Marco Rubio, who is on the Senate Intelligence Committee would be concerned with how a private citizen was able to hold onto quite a bit of classified material for a year and a half

[Orygun]

I’m guessing he was pretty shocked the FBI would conduct a raid. I think the dude has felt he is above the law for a long long long time.

[BraveGear]

@Orygun

I’m guessing he was pretty shocked the FBI would conduct a raid. I think the dude has felt he is above the law for a long long long time.

Well, if that’s what you “felt” then it must be true. We all know Liberals act on emotion, not fact.

[Jezcoe]

@BraveGear

@Jezcoe

Who knew that the GOP would defend such a massive theft of classified material.

So, exactly what do you think President Trump was going to do with this “massive theft of classified material?” You don’t think he didn’t already know what was in there?

Yes or no.

Trump has no right to the classified material in his possession?

[Orygun]

Got an election this Fall!

[BraveGear]

@Jezcoe

Yes or no.

Trump has no right to the classified material in his possession?

Former Presidents always have a right to classified information, and that includes Obama. Look it up.

[Jezcoe]

@BraveGear

@Jezcoe

Yes or no.

Trump has no right to the classified material in his possession?

Former Presidents always have a right to classified information, and that includes Obama. Look it up.

They have that right only by the grace of the current administration.

If the government wants the classified material back… do they get to keep it?

The answer is no.

[Ben_Natuf]

except that under the law ex presidents are entitled to materials that were classified while they were president

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

except that under the law ex presidents are entitled to materials that were classified while they were president

By the grace of the current government they have that right. If the current government wants that material back… they can’t keep it. It isn’t theirs to keep.

[Ben_Natuf]

false. it is law

[WorldWatcher]

@Ben_Natuf

except that under the law ex presidents are entitled to materials that were classified while they were president

Would you mind sourcing that law?

Thank you.

WW

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

false. it is law

No it isn’t.

A Former President has no rights to classified material if the government wants that material back.

The former President does not own it.

[Ben_Natuf]

31 CFR § 2.2 - Access to classified information by historical researchers,...

there you go

[Ben_Natuf]

yes, it is.

[FloridaYankee]

@Ben_Natuf

31 CFR § 2.2 - Access to classified information by historical researchers, former Treasury Presidential and Vice Presidential appointees, and former Presidents and Vice Presidents. | Electronic Code of Federal Regulations (e-CFR) | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

there you go

“May be waived”

That means if they get permission from the current admin

[LeroyBrown]

@conan

Did he?

Yes, just as much as Hillary personally sat in front of a keyboard to delete all those emails.

Or did the original boxes just wind up in his place before without him knowing it? He’s never gone the plausible deniability route over it.

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

yes, it is.

What does the phrase “may be granted” mean to you?

[GrandWazoo]

@Ben_Natuf

its the same area. documents allegedly held at his house that he and the government were disputing ownership over. the lawyers were handling it, the doj suddenly decided to take it out of the lawyers hands… why?

A couple of former federal prosecutors said the same thing today. That in order to get this warrant the Feds had to prove to the Judge that there was a crime in process or a crime that was imminent and therefore the documents had to be recovered now.

[Ben_Natuf]

no, it means if its not denied by the current administration.

how stupid would it be to try to prevent a ex-president from knowing what he already knows?

[Ben_Natuf]

so they lied. nothing new. the fact that he was cooperating, had turned over documents requested and his lawyers were in conversations with the archivist about possible other documents is proof that no crime was “about to happen”