Trump Wants NATO Countries to Bump to 4% Defense Spending

[Guntsu]

You sound like you and the “libs” could be great friends.

Now why do you hate American hegemony?

[BornAgainChristian]

@BornAgainChristian

@Guntsu

Our alliance with Europe and Asia has allowed us to have military installations all across the world ensuring American superiority.

Why do you hate America?

I supported Pat Buchanon. One of his major themes was to end all that nonesense. Same with Ron Paul. That’s true Republicanism. America First.

The globalist crap, that’s the Democrat party. They controlled Congress after WWII, they set all that crap up with the Establishment Republicans.

But its not the “historic classic Republican” position:

George Washington's Farewell Address - Wikipedia

Washington dedicates a large part of his farewell address to discussing foreign relations and the dangers of permanent alliances between the United States and foreign nations, which he views as foreign entanglements.

[BornAgainChristian]

@Guntsu

You sound like you and the “libs” could be great friends.

Now why do you hate American hegemony?

Classic Liberalism, yes. Its principled. Libertarian. Small Government, lots of liberty for individuals.

Present Day fascist deranged Demorats, claiming to be progressive but actually are totalitarian.

No.

American hegemony is good if its the ideals of liberty, free market capitalism. Those ideas should hold sway everywhere.

[Guntsu]

That’s what America promotes at an international level. The world has prospered and we have with it. You want to see that torn down and us to recede back into our shells, that’s what China wants that’s what Russia wants.

Hell no

[BornAgainChristian]

@Guntsu

That’s what America promotes at an international level. The world has prospered and we have with it. You want to see that torn down and us to recede back into our shells, that’s what China wants that’s what Russia wants.

Hell no

No. I don’t want a small skirmish in a small country result in WWIII, because we were obligated.

I want to preserve our freedom to choose what we will do, when that happens.

[Guntsu]

Throwing around that WW3 rhetoric like a good comrade.

If leave that void will be filled and your buddies are just itching for it.

[BornAgainChristian]

@CaughtInTheMiddle

@Guntsu

You can’t even tell them apart anymore…

I’m convinced there is one Russian here. I went and read details about how they do it and their tactics. Or maybe it’s just a huge coincidence that the person is doing exactly, precisely what the Russians do.

Perhaps you. They worked to throw our political system into chaos, and Deranged Democrats are colluding with them every day as far as I can see.

[Jezcoe]

@BornAgainChristian

@Jezcoe

@BornAgainChristian

@Jezcoe

@BornAgainChristian

@Guntsu

So your with the “libs” on this one then?

No. I wouldn’t use the “savings” on increasing Government salaries so they can kick back to the Democrat party.

Or keeping people dependent on welfare etc so they keep voting Democrat.

While I would agree “lets get out of NATO”, it doesn’t follow we shouldn’t arm the countries threatened by Russia with all the weapons they are willing to buy.

Oh … I see that you are picking up that stupid idea that they will exclusively buy arms from the US instead of hosing that money into their own economy.

Good to see where you are standing.

No. They can buy from anyone they want. The Chinese make cheap weapons. So do the Russians. But as Syria found out, they might not work when you need 'em.

Nations have a right to self defense. They should do that, without us paying for it preferably

This is Europe we are speaking of. They have their own weapons manufacturing there.

So the idea that this is some big grand plan by Trump to get them to buy US weapons is just plain stupid.

If a country was going to all of a sudden spend real percentage points of the GDP overnight, they would spend as much as they could inside their borders.

To think any different is just being idiotic.

You pulled that out of your ass. I never suggested they shouldn’t make their own weapons, or must buy ours.

In these very quotes you go from advocating the US selling Europe arms to that should buy them from China and Russia directly to you never said any of that.

Good job.

[Guntsu]

Ask a few simple questions and this guy trips all over himself.

[Morgan]

@BornAgainChristian

You proved my point. You hate American hegemony, therefore you hate NATO.

@BornAgainChristian

I think all these foreign entanglements are a deranged Democrat idea.

America first.

@BornAgainChristian

American hegemony is good if its the ideals of liberty, free market capitalism. Those ideas should hold sway everywhere.

@BornAgainChristian

While I would agree “lets get out of NATO”

[altair1013]

@PizzaReverend

2% by 2024 seems reasonable and was agreed upon and they are going toward that which you would know if you didn’t get your news from Donald Trumps lying mouth.

Was it a lie when your former President told us all that our average insurance premium would drop by $2500? Which lying news source do you get your news from? The ones who claim every single decision that Trump has made is a catastrophe? Those lying sources? The ones who lied about Trump/Russia collusion? The ones who said the economy would collapse under Trump? The ones who said that gays would be shipped off to camps under Trump? How about the lies of your former V.P. You know the one who told African Americans that conservatives want to put “y’all back in chains?” You mean those lying sources?

Are those your lying news sources?

[Guntsu]

Are you denying that Trump is a liar?

Do you think he lies more then Obama?

[altair1013]

@Guntsu

Are you denying that Trump is a liar?

Do you think he lied more then Obama?

It’s not a competition to see who the biggest liar is.

Democrats only care about the lies of Republicans. Republicans only care about the lies of democrats. Partisans always give their own liars a free pass. So what the hell is the point?

[conan]

@Jezcoe

If a country was going to all of a sudden spend real percentage points of the GDP overnight, they would spend as much as they could inside their borders.

Now why would they do that?. Why not buy American product which is better and cheaper?

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

@altair1013

It’s not a competition to see who the biggest liar is.

It once was. What changed?

[Guntsu]

Did you not want better? Was this not supposed to be more of the same?

Why are you not holding Trump to the standard you set for Obama?

[Jezcoe]

@conan

@Jezcoe

If a country was going to all of a sudden spend real percentage points of the GDP overnight, they would spend as much as they could inside their borders.

Now why would they do that?. Why not buy American product which is better and cheaper?

The question is why do you think that any sovereign, if they chose to increase spending in a particular sector, wouldn’t dump as much of it as they could in their own country?

They are not stupid.

[conan]

@Jezcoe

@conan

@Jezcoe

If a country was going to all of a sudden spend real percentage points of the GDP overnight, they would spend as much as they could inside their borders.

Now why would they do that?. Why not buy American product which is better and cheaper?

The question is why do you think that any sovereign, if they chose to increase spending in a particular sector, wouldn’t dump as much of it as they could in their own country?

They are not stupid.

But we are.

[conan]

You see where you libs are being hypocritical here?

If running a continued trade deficit is such beneficial to ones country why are’t the Europeans doing it?

Why are they fighting to protect their trade surplus?

Why not buy American military hardware with profits off that surplus,and thous increase there own security against evil bad Russians?

You guys been brainwashed and don’t even know it.

[DOLOOP]

@conan

@Jezcoe

@conan

@Jezcoe

If a country was going to all of a sudden spend real percentage points of the GDP overnight, they would spend as much as they could inside their borders.

Now why would they do that?. Why not buy American product which is better and cheaper?

The question is why do you think that any sovereign, if they chose to increase spending in a particular sector, wouldn’t dump as much of it as they could in their own country?

They are not stupid.

But we are.

Speak for yourself. You’re the one who seems to think a country can write a check or get a ELOC against a surplus balance of trade or some such…