Trump To Visit Pittsburgh After Synagogue Shooting Despite City Leaders'

[WuWei]

@reflechissez

That doesn’t even make sense. The people of Pittsburgh don’t want him there.

Those people don’t speak for Pittsburgh

[CanadianJudo]

Pretty easy not to ■■■■ it up just don’t talk to the press.

[Phaedrus]

@DougBH

Are leftists now pretending that instead of going there to represent the country in mourning, Trump is planning to go there to disrupt the mourning of the bereaved?
Good grief. They just don’t give up.

At this point, what does it matter what his “plan” is? Going today will surely tax the city’s LEO resources, disrespect the multiple Jewish leaders and portion of the community that have stated unequivocally that they don’t want him there, and distract the focus from the grief-stricken back to himself. Which, you can’t argue, is where he wants it.

Intentionally or not, he IS disrupting the mourning of the bereaved. But back off for a few days? Not our Donald.

[CanadianJudo]

It not like Jewish customs are important or anything to Conservative Jews.

[adroit]

@margaretms2

@Kelby, too:

Ha! I wish the old board was still around. I could just copy and paste my explanation. I’ll have to do it again, at some point. I’m in good company: I am pretty sure that @adroit, @PeterGriffin, and others are also (at least in my and PG’s cases) long recovering wingnuts.

Absolutely, and coincidentally, I just made a 3,500+ word introduction post for a new series on my blog that starts to describe my journey.

[IBC]

From what I understand, the rabbi of the actual synagogue is fine with it.

[Phaedrus]

@NebraskaFootball

There is much of the President’s politics that I find problematic. But things like this transcend politics - this concerns simple decency. For me, the day he mocked John McCain for “allowing” himself to be captured was the day he jumped into the dustbin of history. (And no, Call_me_Ishmael, that’s neither a quote nor a lie; it’s called a “paraphrase”, and everyone on this forum uses them. SMDH)

I completely understand. And I get why that moment was pivotal for you. I knew of Trump’s indecency, immorality, unethical behavior, and general lack of intellect and integrity well before then. And I did not care about it in the least, as he could not affect me or my nation as a private citizen.

But when he descended that golden escalator, in front of his paid actors, declaring his decision to run for office and sending out the first dog whistles that would come to define both his campaign, and his time in office, is when I drew my line in the sand and knew I could never support a man like this. Admittedly, after he was elected, I prayed the gravity of the office would change him for the better, and I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But in short order he ruined that as well.

Make no mistake about it, incidents like this, in total, will combine to form a historical version of one of the darkest periods of time in our history. And the stain left behind by him and his complicit supporters will take time to recover from. And history will be brutal to all of these people.

No desire to make this a two-man echo chamber, and sorry I effed up your requote of me above. Rookie move.

But yes, the likely tenor of his Presidency and legacy were established early. He will be universally regarded as the worst U.S. President, probably in time for me to experience the schadenfreude. It will just take 30% of the electorate a few years to realize it.

BTW: 1971 Nebraka-Oklahoma is still the greatest game ever played.

[CanadianJudo]

Yes but he also called out Trump for his hateful rhetoric

[IBC]

Ok.

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[DMK]

@TommyLucchese

I’m amused how you’re separating “liberals” and “Jews in Pittsburgh” into two separate categories.

Can you be liberal and not be Jewish? Can you be Jewish and not be liberal?

[DMK]

@Tguns

To be fair, they told us that point blank…when they are in control, THEN they’ll be civil.

There really isn’t a civil bone in their bodies whether in control or out of control.

[DougBH]

@Phaedrus

@DougBH

Are leftists now pretending that instead of going there to represent the country in mourning, Trump is planning to go there to disrupt the mourning of the bereaved?
Good grief. They just don’t give up.

At this point, what does it matter what his “plan” is? Going today will surely tax the city’s LEO resources, disrespect the multiple Jewish leaders and portion of the community that have stated unequivocally that they don’t want him there, and distract the focus from the grief-stricken back to himself. Which, you can’t argue, is where he wants it.

Intentionally or not, he IS disrupting the mourning of the bereaved. But back off for a few days? Not our Donald.

If anyone protests his being there then they are doing the disruption. You might be correct if he were going there to campaign. Presumably he is gong there to represent the American people. That is what the President does and he is the only one chosen to do that. Obama would have done it.

If this had happened when Obama was President and a Republican mayor told him not to come, would you not be saying that this is what the President is supposed to do, and a mayor should not be playing politics?

If someone is disruptive because he is there, then that is on those still playing “the resistance”.

As far as Jewish mourning, all people mourn the lost of those near to them. The President, representing the nation, is there to mourn for the nation, not to interfere with the mourning of the loved ones.
That is his job and his duty.

[Camp]

There were a handful of “protesters” that were kept well away.

Looks like the Presidents visit was smooth and well received…for the most part. Peduto can speak for himself and only himself. He couldn’t run Bridgeville, let alone Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh LEO had the President’s back and appreciate his support.

[CanadianJudo]

Jewish mourning is a very specific thing.

How is Shiva Observed | Shiva, Jewish Mourning

[reflechissez]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@reflechissez

@Call_me_Ishmael

If only libs were as pious and respectful when an American cop is killed … for just being a cop.

Well… we can all agree that Trump should pay attention to Jewish tradition. But no reason why he can’t visit the city to comfort the other American citizens who lost fellow Americans through violence.

The reason is the major asked him not to come. I’m sure trump’s soothing words will comfort those who lost loved ones because of trump’s not-so-soothing words that contributed to the killings.

This is a lie. It is a pure hatefilled blatant political lie.

I don’t lie.

[DougBH]

Apparently he did not show up at the homes of the bereaved and interfere with any of this, so your “concerns” were needless.

[FlameHeart]

Riight.

[FlameHeart]

Gee if only you put that in your OP.

[reflechissez]

@DougBH

@Phaedrus

@DougBH

Are leftists now pretending that instead of going there to represent the country in mourning, Trump is planning to go there to disrupt the mourning of the bereaved?
Good grief. They just don’t give up.

At this point, what does it matter what his “plan” is? Going today will surely tax the city’s LEO resources, disrespect the multiple Jewish leaders and portion of the community that have stated unequivocally that they don’t want him there, and distract the focus from the grief-stricken back to himself. Which, you can’t argue, is where he wants it.

Intentionally or not, he IS disrupting the mourning of the bereaved. But back off for a few days? Not our Donald.

If anyone protests his being there then they are doing the disruption. You might be correct if he were going there to campaign. Presumably he is gong there to represent the American people. That is what the President does and he is the only one chosen to do that. Obama would have done it.

If this had happened when Obama was President and a Republican mayor told him not to come, would you not be saying that this is what the President is supposed to do, and a mayor should not be playing politics?

If someone is disruptive because he is there, then that is on those still playing “the resistance”.

As far as Jewish mourning, all people mourn the lost of those near to them. The President, representing the nation, is there to mourn for the nation, not to interfere with the mourning of the loved ones.
That is his job and his duty.

That sack of ■■■■ mother ■■■■■■ doesn’t represent anybody but himself and his half-witted supporters. He’s very clear about that, too. Ever watch his rallies?

[CanadianJudo]

He meet with the families meaning they had to break Shiva to meet with him.