Trump to go after Social Media companies via Anti-Trust laws

AmusedObserver · 2018-09-23T16:39:55.433Z

wiley8425:

Never mind that those six or so companies are all owned by the same parent company. Nothing to see here.

Microsoft owns Google? Wow, the things you learn on this forum!

reflechissez · 2018-09-23T16:57:36.275Z

calirepub:

dantes:

You stopped using google? How is that possible. Supposedly they are a monopoly.

How many machinations did you go through to use another search engine?

I don’t even use search engines anymore. I figure that by my age, if I don’t already know something then it isn’t worth learning.

There is a long-time poster here who actually believes that.

DougBH · 2018-09-23T18:30:26.386Z

BlueTex:

DougBH:

Yep, then Google will be glad to have a us investigation clear their name, because on the surface it looks like their doing the same type of bundling that got Microsoft in trouble (such as it was).

And what was the result of the bundling claim against Microsoft?

The court ordered microsoft broken up, microsoft appealed, the DOJ settled with only the requirement that they provide information for third parties to develop software…and Netscape died.

DougBH · 2018-09-23T18:36:41.831Z

Seems like most of the arguments here are over whether any of these companies are or are not monopolies. That is what a probe is supposed to determine.
When it is done and conclusions are reached, that is the time to argue.

reflechissez · 2018-09-23T18:42:23.607Z

DougBH:

Seems like most of the arguments here are over whether any of these companies are or are not monopolies. That is what a probe is supposed to determine.
When it is done and conclusions are reached, that is the time to argue.

You have different point of view about investigations in the Kavanaugh thread.

DougBH · 2018-09-23T18:43:53.317Z

reflechissez:

DougBH:

Seems like most of the arguments here are over whether any of these companies are or are not monopolies. That is what a probe is supposed to determine.
When it is done and conclusions are reached, that is the time to argue.

You have different point of view about investigations in the Kavanaugh thread.

Actually, I said that I saw nothing wrong with an FBI investigation if it could be done in a couple of weeks and did not delay until the election.

reflechissez · 2018-09-23T18:52:35.341Z

DougBH:

reflechissez:

DougBH:

Seems like most of the arguments here are over whether any of these companies are or are not monopolies. That is what a probe is supposed to determine.
When it is done and conclusions are reached, that is the time to argue.

You have different point of view about investigations in the Kavanaugh thread.

Actually, I said that I saw nothing wrong with an FBI investigation if it could be done in a couple of weeks and did not delay until the election.

You said this:

“The time to bring this up was at the hearings. Without absolute proof, its over. You can’t sit on it and then expect the delay.
First of all, there could have been questions asked and others asked. No, just like in a trial you don’t wait till its over to play your hand.
There are no more hearings and the FBI is not investigating.”

DougBH · 2018-09-23T18:57:36.214Z

Yes I did. In another post someone said it would only take a week or two. I then replied that if it could be done that quickly I could see nothing wrong with it. I know what I said. If you care, then read through all my posts for the last week or so and you will come across it.
And I was obviously quite correct…the FBI is not investigating.

Dem · 2018-09-23T19:17:43.918Z

Maybe Netscape should have made a better browser. Also, Netscape still exists as a company.

Guilds · 2018-09-23T19:21:51.663Z

FloridaYankee:

People search for companies that have a certain product and if the most accurate result is a company that might in any way compete with Google, they will be dissuaded from finding that company. That is how they have managed to hold on to such a huge share of the search market.

Which orifice did you pull that out of? And was it yours?

DougBH · 2018-09-23T19:23:56.859Z

No, there is no Netscape company.

en.wikipedia.org

Mozilla Corporation

The Mozilla Corporation (stylized as moz://a) is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation that coordinates and integrates the development of Internet-related applications such as the Firefox web browser, by a global community of open-source developers, some of whom are employed by the corporation itself. The corporation also distributes and promotes these products. Unlike the non-profit Mozilla Foundation, and the Mozilla open source project, founded by the now defunct Netscape Commu...

pam95650 · 2018-09-23T19:30:26.970Z

Idiot Boy just doesn’t know when to quit, does he? I’m not a praying person, so I’m wishing on a meteor the Dems take over Congress and investigate the ■■■■ out of him.

18 US Code 227

sikofit · 2018-09-23T19:57:57.348Z

DougBH:

No, there is no Netscape company.

Then explain their website with current content

https://isp.netscape.com/

vaard · 2018-09-23T19:59:24.530Z

yeah, because aol aquired netscape and completely messed up the netscape browser…

FloridaYankee · 2018-09-23T20:00:22.580Z

Guilds:

FloridaYankee:

People search for companies that have a certain product and if the most accurate result is a company that might in any way compete with Google, they will be dissuaded from finding that company. That is how they have managed to hold on to such a huge share of the search market.

Which orifice did you pull that out of? And was it yours?

One example of many………

WSJ

How Google Skewed Search Results

An FTC staff report reveals new details about how Google manipulated search results to favor its own services over rivals’, even when they weren’t most relevant for users.

By

Rolfe Winkler And

Brody Mullins

Updated March 19, 2015 7:25 p.m. ET

A previously undisclosed report by staffers at the Federal Trade Commission reveals new details about how Google Inc. GOOGL -1.63% manipulated search results to favor its own services over rivals’, even when they weren’t most relevant for users.

In a lengthy investigation, staffers in the FTC’s bureau of competition found evidence that Google boosted its own services for shopping, travel and local businesses by altering its ranking criteria and “scraping” content from other sites. It also deliberately demoted rivals.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2018-09-23T20:01:06.554Z

AOL bought Netscape in 1999, then Verizon bought AOL in 2015. There is no “Netscape” company anymore, it’s just a brand.

reflechissez · 2018-09-23T20:05:22.162Z

FloridaYankee:

Guilds:

FloridaYankee:

People search for companies that have a certain product and if the most accurate result is a company that might in any way compete with Google, they will be dissuaded from finding that company. That is how they have managed to hold on to such a huge share of the search market.

Which orifice did you pull that out of? And was it yours?

One example of many………

How Google Skewed Search Results - WSJ

By

Rolfe Winkler And

Brody Mullins

Updated March 19, 2015 7:25 p.m. ET

A previously undisclosed report by staffers at the Federal Trade Commission reveals new details about how Google Inc. GOOGL -1.63% manipulated search results to favor its own services over rivals’, even when they weren’t most relevant for users.

In a lengthy investigation, staffers in the FTC’s bureau of competition found evidence that Google boosted its own services for shopping, travel and local businesses by altering its ranking criteria and “scraping” content from other sites. It also deliberately demoted rivals.

I don’t see the problem. It’s Google’s platform. They own it.

Dem · 2018-09-23T20:07:21.558Z

Ah you’re right. I knew Netscape still existed as an ISP, I didn’t realize AOL was running it as a brand, rather than a subsidiary.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2018-09-23T20:09:39.129Z

AOL doesn’t exist as a company anymore, either. It’s also just a brand now.

“Oath:” owns both the AOL and Netscape brands. Oath: is a subsidiary of Verizon.

Oath: also owns Yahoo!

calirepub · 2018-09-23T20:11:53.017Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

Oath: also owns Yahoo!