Trump to back out of open skies treaty with russia

Plasmaball · 2019-11-22T22:35:16.083Z

House chairmen demand answers on surveillance flight treaty

A pair of top House Democrats is demanding answers on the administration’s reported plans to withdraw from a multilateral treaty proponents argue is integral to keeping watch on Russia.In a letter …

So the White House is now telling departments not to discuss this treaty with congress.

The Wall Street Journal has reported trump signed a document signaling his intent to withdraw from the treaty at the urging of former national security adviser [John Bolton] before he left the administration.

So this is good. Wonder what Bolton’s answer is for this?

Smyrna · 2019-11-22T22:57:29.546Z

“We are specifically disturbed by reports indicating that both the State Department and the Department of Defense have been ordered by the White House not to discuss the Open Skies Treaty with Congress,” they wrote. “

“Reports”…it sounds like more leakers spreading misinformation?

At his confirmation hearing to become U.S. ambassador to Russia, Deputy Secretary of State John Sullivan said he’s been assured the United States has not withdrawn from the treaty.

AlexMcAlpine · 2019-11-22T23:00:03.102Z

Smyrna:

“Reports”…it sounds like more leakers spreading misinformation?

Do you not think that this is something Trump is quite capable of doing?

From his actions alone, it’s clear he believes he knows best on foreign policy regardless of what his advisors tell him.

Smyrna · 2019-11-22T23:02:38.324Z

AlexMcAlpine:

Do you not think that this is something Trump is quite capable of doing?

From his actions alone, it’s clear he believes he knows best on foreign policy regardless of what his advisors tell him.

It sounds as though Rs are saying the Russians have not been abiding by the agreement and the Ds are saying…let’s talk to them about it but don’t pull out.

Personally…I believe the President should take the path of working with Congress if that’s his intent to pull out but I also believe this 'report" is a bit premature and only meant to further the divide.

DougBH · 2019-11-23T00:45:53.551Z

If the reports are true, do you think it might have something to do with this?:

“Republicans for years have accused Russia of violating the treaty by blocking flights over some of its territory, including Kaliningrad and areas near its border with the Georgian regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.”

Like maybe Russia gets to see our country in total but we can’t see the parts they don’t want us to see?

Plasmaball · 2019-11-23T00:46:41.362Z

And what’s the rest of it doug…

sikofit · 2020-11-24T02:21:13.267Z

DougBH:

If the reports are true, do you think it might have something to do with this?:

“Republicans for years have accused Russia of violating the treaty by blocking flights over some of its territory, including Kaliningrad and areas near its border with the Georgian regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.”

Like maybe Russia gets to see our country in total but we can’t see the parts they don’t want us to see?

How does any ofnthat explain that Trump is not only pulling out of the treaty but is destroying the surveillance planes themselves?

DougBH · 2020-11-24T03:00:21.633Z

What airplanes is Trump destroying, and how do you know this?

sikofit · 2020-11-24T03:06:46.440Z

DougBH:

What airplanes is Trump destroying, and how do you know this?

The Trump administration formally shut the door on the Open Skies treaty Sunday, exiting the agreement while moving to get rid of the U.S. Air Force planes that have been used to carry out the nearly three-decade-old accord

WSJ

Trump Exits Open Skies Treaty, Moves to Discard Observation Planes

The Trump administration formally shut the door on the Open Skies treaty, which was intended to reduce the risk of war by allowing Russia and the West to carry out unarmed reconnaissance flights over each other’s territories.

GrandWazoo · 2020-11-24T03:34:29.611Z

Maybe I missed it but what is the Pentagon’s position on this?

Camp · 2020-11-24T09:44:24.538Z

Wouldn’t satellites make this an obsolete practice.

Smyrna · 2020-11-24T11:31:51.815Z

sikofit:

while moving to get rid of the U.S. Air Force planes

What does…“get rid of the planes” mean? Park them at Davis-Monthan?

SixFoot · 2020-11-24T14:05:29.710Z

No worries, the next President will get us back in bed with them. 10% for the Big Guy of course.

Munimula1 · 2020-11-24T14:20:01.521Z

“We’ve started liquidating the equipment,” a U.S. official told WSJ. “Other countries can come purchase or just take the airframes. They are really old and cost-prohibitive for us to maintain. We don’t have a use for them anymore.”
https://www.airforcemag.com/the-us-is-out-of-the-open-skies-treaty-whats-next/