Trump says he's 'ready' to put tariffs on all $505 billion of Chinese goods

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-07-20T13:11:02.476Z

koushi_shinigami:

CaughtInTheMiddle:

Wha? People here were praising them after they were massively successful. I think they were the biggest company in the country at that point.

And others detracted from them and said they were using unfair practices.

yeah, mostly ultra libs back then.

Well, and me. I’ve said their business practices are evil all along. While republicans then said it’s just capitalism.

Drs · 2018-07-20T13:14:45.081Z

Trust me I remember the praise Walmart got here especially during the Bush years and all because of their politics.

The problem I have with all this is the ignorance people have around trade agreements. I am for free trade but inside trade agreements there is language on mattolike the environment and child labor as well as working conditions and subsidies. When these are violated then there are penalties.

What people should really be upset about is that politicians have been unwilling to take steps to punish violations when made aware of them because of the cost to them in political donations.

noSpaces · 2018-07-20T13:16:20.712Z

We are told this, but there’s no specificity at all. How short? How long? What gain? The impacts are not equitable. Increases in the costs of good affects most the people who have little to no disposal income. There’s not much storm they can weather and when they can’t, of if you can’t, then what?

TheRedComet · 2018-07-20T13:18:23.438Z

Depends.

They make fantastic phones now. If I wasn’t invested in Apple’s ecosystem I would purchase a Huawai or a ZTE over anything Samsung offers.

TheRedComet · 2018-07-20T13:20:44.549Z

That’s retail in general. I work in auto parts retail. Every major retail outlet that I can think of is massively anti-union.

I admit I struggle with my principles. I’m pro-labor but I work in an industry that is anti-union to its core.

But hey, got to pay the bill. And I enjoy my job.

koushi_shinigami · 2018-07-20T13:22:58.915Z

Thirstyboots:

So you wanna take Walmart down?

Seriously? Did you even read the whole post? There’s an English teacher in your past that needs a swift kick in the ass.

Thirstyboots · 2018-07-20T13:25:00.064Z

Umm, why are you angry?!?

DOLOOP · 2018-07-20T13:26:00.945Z

This trade war has turned out to be easy to win.

koushi_shinigami · 2018-07-20T13:28:10.652Z

Thirstyboots:

Umm, why are you angry?!?

Not angry. I’m a happy butterfly.

calirepub · 2018-07-20T13:29:13.334Z

I’ve been Anti-Walmart ever since Jade Helm.

Drs · 2018-07-20T13:30:08.178Z

Not all retail or all companies. I worked for a coffee shop part time a few years back who ran their business with pretty much union rules. Kept peace and everyone had the same rules. No favourites if a better shift opened up the owner offered it by seniority.

I have had management and human resources people in my company say it is better for the size of our company to have a union to work with.

koushi_shinigami · 2018-07-20T13:35:27.854Z

I’ve seen senior people who were still incompetent. And I’ve seen people with less seniority who had more experience than those with seniority. One that I know had seniority with a power company. He made a mistake that cut power to a hospital.

Airyaman · 2018-07-20T13:38:22.331Z

koushi_shinigami:

How much cheap Chinese ■■■■ do we need in this country?

Perhaps liberals should look at this as an opportunity for them to achieve one of their other goals – taking Wal-Mart down. I also wouldn’t mind seeing Harbor Freight disappear as well.

Hahahaha…not going to happen.

What will happen? Wal-Mart will still be #1 box store, but everyone will just pay higher prices.

But hey! All of those tariffs can go towards bringing down that projected $1T deficit in 2019!

calirepub · 2018-07-20T13:39:52.918Z

Airyaman:

What will happen? Wal-Mart will still be #1 box store, but everyone will just pay higher prices.

Higher prices are fine. The extra money will go to paying down the deficit. I’m fine with an extra tax on Walmart patrons.

In my opinion, Walmart shoppers have been getting a free ride for too long.

Drs · 2018-07-20T13:42:58.427Z

Incomptant workers lasting is often due to incompetence in management.

For instance yesterday I was having a discussion with the head of our hr about discipline and its purpose. Too often management instead of using it to correct behavior as needed waits until they are angry and uses to punish a person and releases a pile of it. Then it is pointless looks motivated out of anger and gets tossed. So a person who should be gradually being disciplined for incompetence and maybe fired if they are not learning instead has a legitimate grievance.

koushi_shinigami · 2018-07-20T13:43:28.939Z

Airyaman:

Hahahaha…not going to happen.

Obviously. But there’s no accounting for what windmill a lib will choose to tilt at next.

moonshine · 2018-07-20T13:44:31.378Z

All China has to do is devalue the yuan by 10% and stop buying us treasuries

That’s how China wins

calirepub · 2018-07-20T13:45:04.089Z

Maybe we should do that first with our currency.

koushi_shinigami · 2018-07-20T13:47:57.801Z

Drs:

Incomptant workers lasting is often due to incompetence in management.

Or due to union rules. Been in the work force for over 30 years. And thanks to the grace of God I’ve never had to be in a union. Did work at a place the union was trying to get into. We always just laughed them off. The benefits the union was offering were no better that what the company was already giving, and on top of that we would have had to pay union dues for the privilege of getting what we already had.

DOLOOP · 2018-07-20T13:50:41.616Z

Drs:

Incomptant workers lasting is often due to incompetence in management.

For instance yesterday I was having a discussion with the head of our hr about discipline and its purpose. Too often management instead of using it to correct behavior as needed waits until they are angry and uses to punish a person and releases a pile of it. Then it is pointless looks motivated out of anger and gets tossed. So a person who should be gradually being disciplined for incompetence and maybe fired if they are not learning instead has a legitimate grievance.

Good observation. As a people manager, this can be a struggle.