JayJay
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What part of “the existing deal between the government and AZ was inked May 21, while the Ph I trials ran from April 23 to May 20” are you having difficulty understanding?
April comes before May before a calendar year. You know that, right?
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JayJay
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Exactly what I’ve been saying.
It WILL speed things up from this point onwards.
It did NOT speed up the Ph I trials…those were completed before AZ got the grant money.
WuWei
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Does that not make sense to you?
Of course it speeds things up. It costs upwards of a billion dollars to ramp up production for a new test.
Phase 1 was only 1,100 patients only half of which even got vaccinated.
They didn’t even have the money to begin phase II until the deal was signed.
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JayJay
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I did.
I applied the credit to where it was due.
It hasn’t sped up anything to this point though…which was the only point I made.
You, as usual, could not see beyond black and white.
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There it is again:
No, the question is why you’re trying to assign credit to Trump for work done by globalist, socialist, educational elites in England, or more correctly, why he deserves more credit than a president who would have cooperated with, rather than antagonized, our allies during a global pandemic, and would have funded the research anyway. Trump doesn’t get Extra Special Credit with Cherries on Top for doing exactly what was expected-putting money toward research and development of a vaccine against a new virus.
You know, before Trump, there was a lot of kvetching about the US government spending money on scientific type things. They’d get all riled about about some study about the heart rate of slugs on a treadmill, or something dumb like that, and would use that as a call to de-fund science at large. Now, it’s boasting over doing exactly what the academic liberal elites wanted.
You are making things up. It certainly expedited their ability to ramp up for phase II.
Camp
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I think this is a different deal with Pfizer running concurrently.
Warp speed sounds about right.

Amazing when one derails their own pro-Trump thread to go after Obama.
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We are not even close to a safe and effective vaccine with high reliability.
Months away. Early next year is my guess.
Allan
Yeah, it was those other times that I thought you were referring to.
The difficulty won’t be in getting the vaccine to the distribution points, but getting the public to the distribution points.
How many doctors can accommodate ALL their patients showing up at the same time.
(Hey, how about distributing the vaccine at polling locations.? 
Your use of a very old and tired stupid debating trick is noted . . . exaggerate and/or misrepresent your opponent’s position, and then argue against your own exaggerations and misrepresentations.

JWK
Let us not forget the Obama/Biden “Shovel-ready was not as … uh … shovel-ready as we expected.”___ Obama, June, 2011
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