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Oh, but I have never shied away from the plundering of our federal treasury by folks in government. The question to be addressed is, was there a money laundering operation involved and no public benefit from the money spent as is the case under Obama’s green energy money laundering operation:?

Let us take a look at the list who have profited off working people‘s earned wages being transferred to them by Obama, and the public benefit achieved :

• Beacon Power Corp: Received $43 million in federal loan guaranteed in 2009 and also received $29 million in PA grants – Bankrupt in October 2011

• Ener1 (parent company of EnerDel): Received $118.5 million in federal loan guarantees — Bankrupt in January 2012 – has since exited bankruptcy

• Evergreen Solar: Received $58 million in MA loan guarantees (an undisclosed portion sourced from federal ARRA block grant) — Bankrupt in August 2011 with $485.6 million in debt

• Solyndra: Received $535 million in federal loan guarantees in 2009 and $25.1 million in CA tax credit — Bankrupt in August 2011

• SpectraWatt: Received $500,000 in federal loan guarantees in 2009 — Bankrupt in August 2011

• Babcock and Brown: Received $178 million in federal grants in December 2009 (4 months after it went bust) – Bankrupt in early 2009

• Mountain Plaza Inc.: Received $424,000 in federal grants through TN Department of Transportation in 2009 — Bankrupt in 2003 and again in June 2010

• Solar Trust of America (parent company: Solar Millennium): Received $2.1 billion loan guarantee in April 2011 – Bankrupt in April 2012
Other Subsidized Green Energy Companies in decline:

• A123: Received $300 million in federal grants and $135 million in MI grants — Declining orders and have forced multiple layoffs

• Amonix, Inc.: Received $5.9 million in federal tax credits in 2009 through ARRA — Laid off 2/3 of work force

• First Solar: Received $3 billion in federal loan guarantees — Biggest S&P loser in 2011, CEO fired

• Fisker Automotive: $529 million in federal loan guarantees — Multiple 2012 sales prediction downgrades for first car release, delivery and cash flow troubles; Assembling cars in Finland

• Johnson Controls: Received $299 million in federal grants in 2009 — Low demand caused cancellation of a new factory, operating at half capacity

• Nevada Geothermal: Received $98.5 million in federal loan guarantees in 2009 — Defaulting on long-term debt obligations, 85% drop in stock value

• Sun Power: Received $1.2 billion in federal loan guarantees — Debt exceeds assets; French oil company took over last fall

• Abound Solar: Received $400 million in federal loans in 2012 — ½ work force laid off

• BrightSource Energy: $1.6 billion federal loan approved in April 2012 – loan obtained through political connections with the administration; absent the loan, Brightsource’s solar power purchase would have fallen through.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership’s offer for free government cheese is really not free. It first addicts and then enslaves participants on an iron fisted socialist run plantation.

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Thanks for further proving what I said here:

And certainly no surprise to see the lack of adjectives being used to express discontent that the most promising vaccine at the moment is being tested by globalist, socialist, educational elites at Oxford.

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Fauci made numerous inaccurate statements and statements that simply didn’t prove out.

We have not given up on him, that’s simply the nature of attempting to predict the outcome of a pandemic early on or how quickly a vaccine can be developed when the red tape is removed.

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Muddy waters and TDS! :roll_eyes:

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How sweet of you to deflect and ignore what I have written.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;

There are times when the spending of federal revenue is in fact spent to further the general welfare of the United States and her citizens. And then there are times when money is spent by the federal government to fatten the fortunes of the friends of those in government as happened under the Obama Administration’s green energy money laundering operation in which 80% of green energy $BILLIONS spent went to Obama’s donors LINK

and …

The question to be addressed is, was there a money laundering operation involved and no public benefit from the money spent as is the case under Obama’s green energy money laundering operation: ?

So, the question is, is there a public benefit from the actions taken and money invested under Trump’s ‘operation warp-speed’?

JWK

Let’s not forget Joe Biden does not support the right to work and individuals being free to negotiate their own employment contracts. He wants every American to pay a union representative a monthly kickback fee in order to work in America .

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I behoves insurance companies to encourage vaccinations.

Allan

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I understand the sentiment. Some people want a share of the profit/praise and think throwing money in at the last second is equal in worth to the physical effort made by others to organize it. BARDA is providing $1.2 billion to the efforts. I believe in each part getting their own share of credit due to their contribution, so I’d research who else has contributed and how much, if I cared that much. Maybe OP can determine that for us.

Hey OP, is $1.2 billion the lion share of funding for this project by Oxford or is it a “small” portion of a larger pool of funds?

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No. He did not. Providing grant money is not speeding things up and certainly isnt “light speed”. It simply providing the neccessary funding

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I don’t know that our Army should be used as test dummies to make big pharma richer.

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Mobilizing our federal government’s assets is not another and important factor?

JWK

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One would wish he’s mobilize the federal governments assets to help the states that are hardest hit in many other ways as well.

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Was it an important factor in the speed of Oxford’s progress? No, there is no evidence presented that shows it sped up their efforts

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According to the Department of Health and Humans Services:

Under this public-private partnership, BARDA can provide up to $1.2 billion to support, in parallel, advanced clinical studies, vaccine manufacturing technology transfer, process development, scaled-up manufacturing, and other development activities. Emergency use authorization or licensure of this vaccine from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) would be required to make the vaccine available.

Hopefully, these trials will test the efficacy of the vaccine and booster beyond the 56 days of the original studies.

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It’s not like the founders did not go to great pains to list in detail the only legitimate areas for spending by the federal gov’t in A1 S8.

  • Article 1, Section 8
  • Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
  • Clause 2: To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
  • Clause 3: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
  • Clause 4: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
  • Clause 5: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
  • Clause 6: To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
  • Clause 7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
  • Clause 8: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
  • Clause 9: To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
  • Clause 10: To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations
  • Clause 11: To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
  • Clause 12: To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
  • Clause 13: To provide and maintain a Navy;
  • Clause 14: To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
  • Clause 15: To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
  • Clause 16: To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
  • Clause 17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, byCession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;–And
  • Clause 18: To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
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That’s beyond his control. The President can only send federal police into states without permission, not medical professionals, supplies or aid.

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You mean like Trump did for New York when sending a floating hospital to help New York and also supplied New York with N95 masks and other protective gear?

JWK

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Yes like that. That was certainly a good first step. A first step that should of been followed up with a long, sustained effort. Unfortunately it was not

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John you are wrecking the narrative. Our President has been working hard since day one. But liberals don’t get it.

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My point is, there are like forty million people who lost their insurance in the last four months on top of all the usual problems.

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John thank you for a dose of reality.