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Not true at all.
Trump right now, against the advice of his experts is hosting indoor rallies.
One example.
when the CDC did, Trump recommended states follow the CDC recommendations. there’s nothing else he could do. list your dozen other things if you have any… you don’t.
this line from the left is just the ■■■■■■■■ lies the liberal masters have fed you.
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that is not against the advice of experts. what they advise is social distancing and where it cannot be done to wear a mask. the campaign hands them out. I agree, people at rallies should mask. but rallies have absolutely nothing to do with the governments official covid response. they are an exercise of our 1st amendment political freedoms.
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He could have led by example. He could have required them in his rallies. He could have insisted on them in his pressers. Instead, he led millions by example to be resistant to masks.
I’m out the door for work. Will last more later if I have time over lunch. Other wise - have a good day. Weather is great here in jersey. Wish I didn’t have to be indoors today.
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Oh stop.
Trump is the government. This is leading by poor example plain and simple.
Absolutely false. Trump actively encouraged his tide-podders to fight every last action the States took that were in line with his own CDC recommendations.
The CDC had very specific guidelines for reopening phases. Trump demanded his people “Liberate” the States that followed the CDC orders and were shut down.
There is no need for masks when social distancing. I don’t need a daddy. maybe you do? All I need is information to make my own decisions. That’s America, the land of the informed electorate capable of making their own decisions.
false. he even criticized GA’s governor for not doing so. the cdc recommendations are his recommendations. The states he’s encouraged to open have met them and the governors have made the political decision to harm the economy to get trump.
otherwise, i really don’t give a ■■■■ about your hate driven drivel about “tide podders”.
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You do realize you are speaking to people here who actually know what has happened, right? Your weak attempts to re-write history are not going to succeed here.
Trump actively encouraged his tide-podders to fight every last Governor who was following CDC recommended guidelines of being shut down, and not re-opening until they had hit specific benchmarks to safely do so. This is an unassailable fact.
once again the arrogance you display by attempting to make it seam you know better outshines your abilities. the states the President has encouraged to open have met the cdc’s guidelines to open into the next phases. governors of those states have kept them on stricter lockdowns than were required by the guidelines. the opinion you’ve been supplied with by the leftist masters is garbage, made garbage by your hate.
eta: your facts aren’t very facty. the presidents criticism of GA’s reopenning belies your “facts”
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Complete fantasy. When Trump tweeted out “Liberate Michigan” had that state met the CDC guidelines for re-opening? Do you seriously believe they had? What about Minnesota? Or Virginia? Two other states that he demanded his tide-podders to “Liberate” back on April 17th. These three states had only implemented their stay-at-home orders less than 1 week prior. And you want us to believe that they had already met the CDC guidelines for phased re-openings?
The data is there for us both to see for ourselves. So are the CDC guidelines from the time. Don’t promote fake news and a re-writing of history with me bud. And then have the balls to suggest my adherence to the truth and reality is actually some for of hate. It is laughable. 
Reminder: Here were the CDC guidelines issued on April 16th (Note: 1 ■■■■■■■ day BEFORE Trump told his tide-podders to “Liberate” states.) And the screen-shot is what needed to be in place before any state could even BEGIN the process.
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How do you logically get there?
CDC is the preeminent source on the subject.
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You are completely wrong.
The Liberate MI movement was a local issue.
Wittmer is still trampling the Constitution.
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I am not completely wrong. On April 16th the CDC issued its phased re-opening guidelines for the States. On April 17th, Trump was tweeting at his tide-podders to “Liberate” the states that were in compliance with these very guidelines his own administration had issued. These states that Trump was encouraging his loyalists to “Liberate” and overturn the Governors orders to keep the public safe, while they had not yet met the guidelines for phased re-opening, were doing what they had to do, and were doing so in accordance with the very recommendations of the Trump administration itself.
This is reality. You will not re-write history here without being challenged on it.
show us where these states had ever met any criteria published by the cdc to issue “stay at home” orders to begin with. The simple truth is they did not. They should have never gone that far to begin with. The stay at home orders were a vast over reaction everywhere outside of major metro’s where hospital systems were being stretched to capacity. Did rural VA need to stay at home? no. Did suburban VA need to stay at home? I’m not even certain it was required in Richmond. Nowhere did any place in MI ever need to. The infection rate was never high enough to warrant it. Minnesota the same.
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Did you hurt yourself moving those goalposts? I sure hope not.
You are trying to desperately make it seem like what Trump did, did not actually occur. That is re-writing history. I’m not going to let that happen without challenging you on it. His own CDC issued phased re-opening guidelines on April 16th. And the very next ■■■■■■■ day, on April 17th, Trump was undercutting his own administration guidelines and encouraging his tide-podders to “Liberate” the states that had not yet met the re-opening recommendations of his own ■■■■■■■ CDC.
Holy ■■■■ man! Are you being serious here?
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like i give a ■■■■ what you aren’t going to let happen or about your revisions of reality. you’re funny.
the states he was encouraging to open went far beyond what the cdc recommended for them. his statements were encouraging those states to stop going beyond those recommendations and get with the program. the decision to issue “stay at home” orders in those states was not necessitated by medical practices, it was a political decision made by leftist governors to wreck the economy.
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Completely laughable. Trump has been downplaying this virus in public from the beginning. He has been undercutting his own CDC guidelines from the beginning. He has lied and hundreds and thousands of our countrymen have died.
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…and yet, you do not condemn China…who is directly responsible.
Demonstrably false. I absolutely condemn China. And have repeatedly as well. And I condemn Trump for not doing ■■■■ to hold them accountable. I also condemn Trump for failing once he knew, in late January, that this virus was going to be the single biggest national security threat to our nation in a century; and the largest of his Presidency.
This ■■■■■■■ psychopath knew on February 7th that the virus was significantly more deadly than even the worst strains of influenza and that it was airborne, transmitting person-to-person. And he went out and held 5 MAGA rallies from February 10th through March 2nd, with thousands and thousands of screaming Americans, indoors, no masks, and without telling them the virus was airborne.
What in the ■■■■ does that have to do with China and Trump’s failure to hold them accountable? That was ALL his decision. He lied and people died. His actions were reckless and irresponsible and people died. Hundreds of thousands have since died.
I know I’m just screaming into the void here. But holy ■■■■ it is insane that I seem to living in a completely different reality from Trump supporters. The facts I’m presenting are real. These things have actually happened.
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