The fact that we are bigger is not an excuse as to why the disease is spreading out of control here.

This mortality rate that is cling to is meaningless if the rate of infection can not be gotten under control.

Sure, there is a slight percentage less of people not dying because of improved treatment, but more people are getting sick here than other nations… so more people are going to die.

The administration failed.

Failed hard.

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then look at the rest of the industrialized world. We have a lower case fatality rate than all of it except the most geographically isolated states. The combined deaths in europe as compared to the US are pretty close to even. they are having spikes in every sector of the economy they attempt to open. as they open further, there will be more. there is nothing that can be done to stop it other than a vaccine. Which we better hope does not just create covid antibodies or we’re all going to need a shot every 2-3 months. Why are our spikes higher than theirs right now? Floyd. everywhere there were large protests there are now large spikes. except nyc, where the population still has a measure of herd immunity other places don’t

again false.

more people are being tested here and cases are being discovered. The rest of the industrialized world went back to testing only symptomatic people about a month ago. There are fewer dying because the median age of the infected is lower and the most vulnerable are being protected from cuomovirus.

Of course we have more deaths. We are big. Of course we have more deaths. We test a lot. Of course we have more deaths. Nothing else could have been done. Of course we have more deaths. Other countries have deaths too.

Do you hear yourself man?

We are the freaking United States of America. And making excuses for us having over 150,000 dead Americans should be beneath us. We should demand more and better from our elected leaders.

We have 4% of the population and 25% of the deaths from COVID. There is no spinning this reality. Name some other countries that have this large of a spread between their population total and their global casualties. Go ahead, show us how much better we are than so many other countries here. I’ll even help by giving the top 3 death total countries and their population breakdowns for you.

Brazil - 2.7% of the world’s population and 13% of the casualties
U.K. - 0.8% of the world’s population and 7% of the casualties
Mexico - 1.7% of the world’s population and 6.8% of the casualties

United States - 4.3% of the world’s population and 23% of the casualties

Over 150,000 dead Americans is not a fantasy. It is reality. COVID becoming the 3rd leading cause of death in America is not a fantasy. It is reality. On pace for over a QUARTER MILLION dead Americans by the end of the year from the failures of Trump and his administration is not a fantasy. It is reality.

and the five countries I listed, which would be comparable to us, have what 22%?

Yes, when your population is 5X what your peers are you can expect to have 5X the casualties. You’re way too emotional. You think you’re being rational, but you’re not.

its your fantasy that its Trumps fault. Its not. There is nothing that could have been done that would have changed any of it. Well, we could have put down the floyd protests, but not really, we couldn’t.

I’m giving the facts. You’re trying to justify the United States having substantially more deaths than any other nation on earth. And then calling me emotional.

Brazil does not have 5 times less population than we do. Yet they are doing better than us. Mexico does not have 5 times less population than us. Yet, they are doing better than us. How about some other countries?

  • United States - 328,200,000 people. 4.3% of the world’s population. 152,410 deaths. 23% of the total casualties.
  • Japan - 126,500,000 people. 1.7% of the world’s population. 998 deaths. 0.15% of the total casualties.
  • India - 1,326,000,000 people. 17.5% of the world’s population. 34,485 deaths. 5.2% of the total casualties.
  • South Korea - 51,640,000 people. 0.7% of the world’s population. 300 deaths. 0.05% of the total casualties. :flushed:

Nothing could have been done, as shown by every other industrialized, first world nation on Earth having the exact same troubles and outbreak we are having. Right? Wait…that doesn’t sound right.

Okay you go with that! :roll_eyes: I contend we’ve been there, done that with the massive Presidential failures of Carter and Obama (and a few others), but HEY probably neither of us will be alive when history is written & depicted hundreds of years from now, so who knows :woman_shrugging:t2: it really all depends on the November election if it’s true history or cancel culture fake history because a vote for a Democrat today is a vote for destruction of the nation and the beginning of communism.

Did Obama or Carter have such massive failures during their time in office that a QUARTER OF A MILLION Americans died as a result of their inaction and gaslighting? Nope. Sure did not.

  • Korean War: 36,914 American deaths
  • Vietnam War: 58,209 American deaths
  • Gulf War I: 294 American deaths
  • 09/11/2001: 2,977 deaths
  • Afghanistan War: 2,216 American deaths
  • Iraq War: 4,497 American deaths
  • Total: 105,107 American deaths

COVID: 152,771 American deaths and counting

We have a stark choice in November. America and American lives or Trump. I’m choosing America.

Trump. Must. Go!

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That’s what they do . . .

They also ignore science that refutes their desire to keep the United States on lockdown.

JWK

Our country is infested with a Fifth Column movement at MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists, who work hand in hand with the Democrat Party socialist/communist leadership to plunder, paralyze and destroy our free market, free enterprise system.

So now you blame Trump for the virus which originated under the Chinees Communist Party? I wonder how many internet warriors are being paid by the Chinees Communist Party to do their dirty work, especially a never ending attack on Trump.

JWK

Our country is infested with a Fifth Column movement at MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists, who work hand in hand with the Democrat Party socialist/communist leadership to plunder, paralyze and destroy our free market, free enterprise system.

Negative. I don’t blame Trump for the virus.

I blame him for his failures in combating the virus, which has led the United States to a place where we have about 4% of the world’s population and 23% of the world’s casualties from COVID. We have the 4th highest deaths per 100,000 out of the most populous countries, and the 10th highest deaths per 100,000 in the entire world. That is failure that will be written about and discussed for generations. Trump will rival Buchanan for the title of Worst President Ever.

Seeing as how Trump has done NOTHING to punish China for what they unleashed on the world, it would seem you believe he is also being paid by the Chinese Communist Party? Not too mention the glowing things he has said about China and Xi in regards to this very crisis.

And all of those studies said transmission was low…but not impossible. Every time someone says we know this or we know that this disease say ■■■■ you to all of us. So if you want to bank on that go ahead Ben. I understand your hanging on that. I’m a bit more cautious than you I guess.

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Stop with the hatred rhetoric. We disagree. Its not hate. I am so sick of that narrative.

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Oh come now. I’m sure you would accuse President Trump of causing unemployment among doctors if he found a cure for cancer.

Failures? I’ve followed President’s Trumps actual responses in dealing with the Chinees virus, and from where I stand he has utilized the power’s of the office of the president very wisely in dealing with it.

See, e.g., TIMELINE: THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION’S DECISIVE ACTIONS TO COMBAT THE CORONAVIRUS from December 31-April 24

So, where has he failed to utilize the powers of the Presidency and the federal government?

JWK

Let’s not forget Joe Biden does not support the right to work and individuals being free to negotiate their own employment contracts. He wants every American to pay a union representative a monthly kickback fee in order to work in America .

Wow. Anything else you want to share about what you know about me? Especially as it relates to me and my loved ones and cancer? Very cool man. Have a great life.

What is not “cool” is your deflection. :roll_eyes:

Failures? I’ve followed President Trump’s actual responses in dealing with the Chinees virus, and from where I stand he has utilized the power’s of the office of the president very wisely in dealing with it.

See, e.g., TIMELINE: THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION’S DECISIVE ACTIONS TO COMBAT THE CORONAVIRUS from December 31 - April 24

So, where has he failed to utilize the powers of the Presidency and the federal government?

JWK

Let’s not forget Joe Biden does not support the right to work and individuals being free to negotiate their own employment contracts. He wants every American to pay a union representative a monthly kickback fee in order to work in America .

You portend to know me and my life and my thoughts on cancer. And then you link to Trump’s own propaganda website as some sort of proof of all of his accomplishments with COVID. Trust in Trump® I guess.

We have 4.3% of the world’s population and 23% of the world’s casualties from this pandemic. There is no other nation even remotely close to us when it comes to absolute failure in addressing this crisis. None.

We are ranked 10th highest in the entire world in deaths per 100,000. Out of the entire damn planet. We are the only developed nation that has failed to flatten the curve. We are the only industrialized nation that has been restricted from traveling to almost all of the rest of the western world. We cannot even travel to the Bahamas.

We are barreling towards 250,000 dead Americans by the end of the year from this virus. Literally lapping the rest of the world in deaths. Every single metric shows Trump’s failure. Trump is the Chief Executive. He is a danger to our country. He. Must. Go!

The choice is clear in November. Keep a total failure in office and watch tens of thousands more Americans die. Or remove the clear and present danger and go a different direction. America or Trump. I’m choosing America.

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