Trump Pushing Murder Conspiracy

JayJay · 2020-05-28T00:17:25.879Z

FiveThirtyEight already did.

The Invisible Undecided Voter

This is the third article in a series that reviews news coverage of the 2016 general election, explores how Donald Trump won and why his chances were underrated…

Three of the last five elections (2004, 2008, 2012) were not decided by undecideds or swing voters.

JayJay · 2020-05-28T00:19:07.249Z

thinkingman:

here let me:

Dr. Michael Berkland, former medical examiner, arrested for storing human body parts in Fla. storage unit - CBS News

sorry i know it’s a “nutter” site. but give it a chance

How convenient that many the posts by posters who predicted this is where you were going with this have suddenly “vanished”.

thinkingman · 2020-05-28T00:22:08.227Z

JayJay:

thinkingman:

here let me:

Dr. Michael Berkland, former medical examiner, arrested for storing human body parts in Fla. storage unit - CBS News

sorry i know it’s a “nutter” site. but give it a chance

How convenient that many the posts by posters who predicted this is where you were going with this have suddenly “vanished”.

take that up with the mods

not the thread

Bigjohn · 2020-05-28T00:24:39.069Z

Aye funny that.

IndependentMindedJoe · 2020-05-28T00:25:57.210Z

I agree with the original poster here, I think the president really shouldn’t have engaged this within a billion miles. Not only is it unfounded completely, but the family repeatedly asked for this to stop. I find it rude and inconsiderate in my honest opinion. Most of the time these things come off as just trying to get under peoples skin, but I don’t think he is on this one. But I can’t tell, and this is just my opinion.

JayJay · 2020-05-28T00:29:27.272Z

thinkingman:

JayJay:

thinkingman:

here let me:

Dr. Michael Berkland, former medical examiner, arrested for storing human body parts in Fla. storage unit - CBS News

sorry i know it’s a “nutter” site. but give it a chance

How convenient that many the posts by posters who predicted this is where you were going with this have suddenly “vanished”.

take that up with the mods

not the thread

Hey I’m just glad you finally took the reins and Galloped to the next irrelvant point.

So to wit:

Klausutis was a marathoner- WRONG
Even if Klausutis was a marathoner, running actually exacerbates the MVP condition she ended up being diagnosed with- so WRONG again
Now we are at “Dr. Berkland was a weirdo, so obviously he faked his autopsy report”…which sounds almost plausible…except there’s absolutely no connection with being a weirdo and being talented at one’s profession. So- WRONG AGAIN

But thank you for a textbook example of the Gish Gallop- string a bunch of nebulous arguments together to attempt to make the debunking so hard a chore that opponents give up.

toreyj01 · 2020-05-28T13:15:42.558Z

thinkingman:

TommyLucchese:

thinkingman:

how many people die suddenly in other people’s offices?

It was where she worked. Scarborough’s office in Pensacola or wherever the hell he represented. People die in their workplace all the time.

young athletic people die at work “all the time”

uh huh

Len Bias had IHSS, you have to screen athletes for it because they do tend to just drop dead on the spot.

toreyj01 · 2020-05-28T13:22:18.491Z

WuWei:

toreyj01:

There has to be, at some point, an agreed upon level of decency in our society.

Why?
…

I still have faith in our common humanity, that we can disagree on methods but agree that we care about each other and this country. Maybe some folk will never care about their fellow citizens but as a whole, I think, overall, we do share and value our community.

WuWei · 2020-05-28T14:29:46.547Z

toreyj01:

WuWei:

toreyj01:

There has to be, at some point, an agreed upon level of decency in our society.

Why?
…

I still have faith in our common humanity, that we can disagree on methods but agree that we care about each other and this country. Maybe some folk will never care about their fellow citizens but as a whole, I think, overall, we do share and value our community.

I don’t think that answer supports your previous statement. “Decency” is purely subjective and based on moral foundations.

Standards of behavior for society have been set by law as a negative.

toreyj01 · 2020-05-28T14:39:48.482Z

WuWei:

toreyj01:

WuWei:

toreyj01:

There has to be, at some point, an agreed upon level of decency in our society.

Why?
…

I still have faith in our common humanity, that we can disagree on methods but agree that we care about each other and this country. Maybe some folk will never care about their fellow citizens but as a whole, I think, overall, we do share and value our community.

I don’t think that answer supports your previous statement. “Decency” is purely subjective and based on moral foundations.

Standards of behavior for society have been set by law as a negative.

We are getting into the rhetorical weeds here, Sneaky.

Bottom line: Trump needs to stop this.

WuWei · 2020-05-28T14:42:03.335Z

toreyj01:

WuWei:

toreyj01:

WuWei:

toreyj01:

There has to be, at some point, an agreed upon level of decency in our society.

Why?
…

I still have faith in our common humanity, that we can disagree on methods but agree that we care about each other and this country. Maybe some folk will never care about their fellow citizens but as a whole, I think, overall, we do share and value our community.

I don’t think that answer supports your previous statement. “Decency” is purely subjective and based on moral foundations.

Standards of behavior for society have been set by law as a negative.

We are getting into the rhetorical weeds here, Sneaky.

Bottom line: Trump needs to stop this.

The weeds are where the truth is.

They all need to stop this, not just Trump. But they won’t.

Nemesis · 2020-05-28T17:57:21.274Z

WuWei:

toreyj01:

WuWei:

toreyj01:

There has to be, at some point, an agreed upon level of decency in our society.

Why?
…

I still have faith in our common humanity, that we can disagree on methods but agree that we care about each other and this country. Maybe some folk will never care about their fellow citizens but as a whole, I think, overall, we do share and value our community.

I don’t think that answer supports your previous statement. “Decency” is purely subjective and based on moral foundations.

Standards of behavior for society have been set by law as a negative.

Not so.

WuWei · 2020-05-28T17:58:29.703Z

Nemesis:

Not so.

Ok, go ahead.

WuWei · 2020-05-28T18:05:47.707Z

WuWei:

Nemesis:

Not so.

Ok, go ahead.

You like. I’m waiting for how not so.

occu · 2020-05-28T18:08:51.038Z

thinkingman:

young athletic people die at work “all the time”

uh huh
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Happened to my wife. She was young, fit, she is a runner, and she passed out at work in a meeting. Had it not been for excellent coworkers, an aed, and a quick fire department she would be dead. She was “dead” for about 5 minutes.

It happens.

toreyj01 · 2020-05-28T18:28:32.960Z

occu:

thinkingman:

young athletic people die at work “all the time”

uh huh

Happened to my wife. She was young, fit, she is a runner, and she passed out at work in a meeting. Had it not been for excellent coworkers, an aed, and a quick fire department she would be dead. She was “dead” for about 5 minutes.

It happens.

Glad she did okay. Did she get treated for the cause of her syncope?

occu · 2020-05-28T18:34:57.750Z

She has an electrical conduction issue, we don’t know what caused it. She is had an internal defibrillator in her now, and is regularly wearing heart monitors.

toreyj01 · 2020-05-28T18:38:52.380Z

occu:

She has an electrical conduction issue, we don’t know what caused it. She is had an internal defibrillator in her now, and is regularly wearing heart monitors.

I was thinking she probably, at a minimum, got an ICD. Scary stuff, but it now her guardian angel. They have really advanced in the last few decades, they’re tiny now and easy to implant. Some even send emails!

Glad she did well.

thinkingman · 2020-05-28T22:49:30.323Z

occu:

thinkingman:

young athletic people die at work “all the time”

uh huh

Happened to my wife. She was young, fit, she is a runner, and she passed out at work in a meeting. Had it not been for excellent coworkers, an aed, and a quick fire department she would be dead. She was “dead” for about 5 minutes.

It happens.
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yes i know it does

it’s the “all the time” part thats the problem

JayJay · 2020-05-28T22:57:16.982Z

He’s already been shown the article where running actually exacerbates MVP.

Also…there are 25 million Americans aged 25-29.

Even if only 0.5% of them succumb to this condition per year, that’s 125,000 young Americans.

This is what large numbers means.