Trump halts American funding for WHO

[WorldWatcher]

@Guvnah

@WorldWatcher

Why would you assume that. I’m not a part of “some” Trump supporters.

You used to be better than this.

But it looks like TDS has infected you too.

Yes I was, then my party elected Trump.

Now he calls me scum. Just returning the favor.
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[WuWei]

@WorldWatcher

@WuWei

@WorldWatcher

@WuWei

@WorldWatcher

@westaussie

The date of the tweet was 24/01/2020.

You will confuse some Trump supporters with that date format. You know that right?
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Did it confuse you?

Why would you assume that. I’m not a part of “some” Trump supporters.
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You’re not smarter than they are either.

Yes I am.
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Not hardly.

[WorldWatcher]

@WuWei

@WorldWatcher

@WuWei

@WorldWatcher

@WuWei

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@westaussie

The date of the tweet was 24/01/2020.

You will confuse some Trump supporters with that date format. You know that right?
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Did it confuse you?

Why would you assume that. I’m not a part of “some” Trump supporters.
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You’re not smarter than they are either.

Yes I am.
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Not hardly.

Some Trump supporters?

Guaranteed.
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[amadeus]

@WuWei

I was promised destruction. I’m waiting.

I will fulfill my promise. Not as early as I might have suggested. Not if I do it right. In the meantime, what is your opinion of the theory of WR? Nothing to add?

[TheRedComet]

I dunno man having to fight off Lions and other large animals with spears sounds like a pretty awful experience.

[WildRose]

The liar in this conversation is the author who’s peddling complete BS.

March 11 — WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus declares the global COVID-19 outbreak a pandemic. “We are deeply concerned both by the alarming levels of spread and severity and by the alarming levels of inaction,” he says, adding that “we have called every day for countries to take urgent and aggressive action.” The decision has been made based on input from experts both internally and externally.

Jan. 30 — WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus declares the 2019-nCoV outbreak a public health emergency of international concern, noting the potential spread of the virus to countries with weak health systems. The decision comes as more countries outside China report cases of infection, including the Philippines and India. Both confirm their first 2019-nCoV cases. Total confirmed cases in China reach 9,692, with 213 deaths. WHO recommends “2019-nCoV acute respiratory disease” as interim name for the disease.

Jan. 28 — WHO’s Tedros meets with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing to discuss the latest developments in the 2019-nCoV outbreak. China agrees for WHO to send in international experts to help increase global understanding of the outbreak and guide response efforts.

Jan. 23 — WHO’s director-general decides to not declare the 2019-nCoV outbreak a public health emergency of international concern yet, as per recommendations by the emergency committee.

The city of Wuhan shuts down public transportation, closing the airport and railway stations as of Thursday morning, in efforts to curb the spread of the 2019-nCoV. The suspension is in effect “until further notice.” Later in the day, another city is on lockdown: Ezhou. Beijing cancels plans for Chinese new year festivities and closes the Forbidden City. Another city, Huanggang, announces it will go into lockdown Friday. Singapore also confirms its first imported case, while Vietnam confirms two cases.

Jan. 22 — The emergency committee defers its decision on whether to advise WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus to declare 2019-nCoV outbreak a public health emergency of international concern. The meeting takes place amid a significant rise in confirmed cases of individuals infected with 2019-nCoV, at 580, according to China’s National Health Commission. The death toll has now risen to 17, with all cases reported from Hubei province.

Jan. 21 — WHO confirms human-to-human transmission of the virus. The total number of cases is now 222, including infections among health-care workers. Chinese authorities have also reported a fourth death. WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus has convened an emergency committee on Jan. 22 to decide whether this constitutes a public health emergency of international concern.

Health officials in Taipei said they alerted the WHO at the end of December about the risk of human-to-human transmission of the new virus but said its concerns were not passed on to other countries. Taiwan is excluded from the WHO because China, which claims it as part of its territory, demands that third countries and international bodies do not treat it in any way that resembles how independent states are treated.

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We also now know the first cases actually emerged in late October/Early November but there was no reporting on it out of China until December 31.

Dec. 31, 2019 — Chinese authorities inform WHO’s China office of pneumonia cases in Wuhan City, Hubei province, China, with unknown cause.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/article240532841.html

Exclusive: China’s first confirmed Covid-19 case traced back to November 17

Your cited article is nothing more than a continuation of the cover-up and and attempt to deflect blame from the CCP and WHO onto Trump.

[amadeus]

@TheRedComet

I dunno man having to fight off Lions and other large animals with spears sounds like a pretty awful experience.

Do you think that was life was like?

[TheRedComet]

I’m sure it played a role.

These are hunter gatherers in Africa. There were large predatory animals there, just as there are now. Even after we left Africa places like Europe and Asia were certainly full of large predators like bear. Not only that but food scarcity was much more heavily impacted by things they had no control over, unlike today.

I’m sure there were positives. But I don’t think I’d trade today for the hunter gatherer experience.

[amadeus]

@TheRedComet

I’m sure it played a role.

These are hunter gatherers in Africa. There were large predatory animals there, just as there are now. Even after we left Africa places like Europe and Asia were certainly full of large predators like bear. Not only that but food scarcity was much more heavily impacted by things they had no control over, unlike today.

I’m sure there were positives. But I don’t think I’d trade today for the hunter gatherer experience.

I didn’t ask you if you would trade. However, the hunter-gatherer adaptation was the most successful in the history of humanity. A comparison with hunter-gatherers at European contact showed no evidence of scarcity, nor is there indication of that in the archaeological record. Quite the contrary. Our current agrarian and urban culture is recent, and by comparison its viability seems fragile.

[TheRedComet]

I’ll admit that I don’t have strong knowledge in this subject.

Would you say that their standard of living, and happiness levels, were equal to ours?

[WuWei]

We should stop all foreign funding until we get our own economy back to where it was.

[WildRose]

BS, they never even made it out of the stone age until long after agriculture was developed.

Average lifespan at the time? About 20 years.

It took more than a hundred thousand years for HS to even cover most of Europe and Asia and there were zero large permanent communities prior to the rise of agriculture.

[WildRose]

I don’t know about all but I’d certainly vote for most and have every single program in existence today or proposed in the future evaluated as to what the US is getting for it’s money.

[amadeus]

@WildRose

BS, they never even made it out of the stone age until long after agriculture was developed.

Average lifespan at the time? About 20 years.

It took more than a hundred thousand years for HS to even cover most of Europe and Asia and there were zero large permanent communities prior to the rise of agriculture.

The “Stone Age,” as you call it, was the most successful adaptation in the history of humanity. Life became much more labor intensive after the origin of agriculture. And human heath was almost universally worse after that. What does permanent settlements have to do with anything. Clearly, you are not a student of prehistory.

[WildRose]

Complete unsupportable BS. The hunter gatherers starved to death frequently, froze to death frequently, and their entire existence was litte different from the animals they hunted and those which were hunting them.

There is no measure of success that supports your idiotic, baseless contentions.

Your feigned expertise seems to come from Watching Disney cartoons because it’s most certainly supported by any known fact.

[WildRose]

@amadeus

@WildRose

BS, they never even made it out of the stone age until long after agriculture was developed.

Average lifespan at the time? About 20 years.

It took more than a hundred thousand years for HS to even cover most of Europe and Asia and there were zero large permanent communities prior to the rise of agriculture.

The “Stone Age,” as you call it, was the most successful adaptation in the history of humanity. Life became much more labor intensive after the origin of agriculture. And human heath was almost universally worse after that. What does permanent settlements have to do with anything. Clearly, you are not a student of prehistory.

Seems once again you’ve lost the plot or never had it to begin with. What a shock.

@amadeus

No, it was the longest because they took a couple of hundred thousand years to develop a social structure that allowed for ever larger communities and because the rate of increase in science and technology was at a literal snails pace.

Do you think “social structures” were not in place 200,000 years ago? After all, hominids themselves evolved physically and culturally for a couple of million years or more before that. Did people just wander around chaotically? Why do you think that larger communities depended on the development of particular social structures? Indeed, there is no evidence for that. In fact, why would larger communities even be desirable? When you say “science,” do you mean experimental science? Of what science do you speak? And what does the pace of change have to with anything?

It was certainly not successful in the long term as the families and clans were repeatedly wiped out in natural disasters and by each other when they intruded on each others hunting grounds.

Really? 200,000 years (or more) is not successful in the long run? What long run? What evidence do you have the “families and clans” were repeated wiped out? Which hunting ground did you have in mind?

The greatest success in human history began with moving to an agrarian and then technological society.

What do you mean by a technological society? Technology was well advanced before the onset of the Neolithic. Indeed, life was probably more difficult as an early farmer than a late stone age hunter-gatherer. Organized warfare, the beginnings of inequality and social stratification, diseases of overcrowding, can be traced back to transition to the Neolithic Adaptation. As Jared Diamond writes: “The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race.”

Northern Europeans were able to conquer the world because during the ice ages they learned to come together in ever larger cooperative societies to survive.

The most ridiculous and uninformed thing I’ve ever heard about the evolution of human culture.

Once that period in history was over, the same community/cooperative tradition allowed them to then dominate the rest of the know world that had not been forced into such adaptions because they were not so affected by the advancement of the glaciers.

Oh, please.

@amadeus

@WildRose

No, it was the longest because they took a couple of hundred thousand years to develop a social structure that allowed for ever larger communities and because the rate of increase in science and technology was at a literal snails pace.

It was certainly not successful in the long term as the families and clans were repeatedly wiped out in natural disasters and by each other when they intruded on each others hunting grounds.

The greatest success in human history began with moving to an agrarian and then technological society.

Northern Europeans were able to conquer the world because during the ice ages they learned to come together in ever larger cooperative societies to survive.

Once that period in history was over, the same community/cooperative tradition allowed them to then dominate the rest of the know world that had not been forced into such adaptions because they were not so affected by the advancement of the glaciers.

So much wrong.

Once again pontifications of feigned superiority yet unable to produce a single fact to support your claims and instead choose to drop an insult you can’t support before fleeing.

Playing the same tune over and over again when you can’t make your case just shows the intellectual bankruptcy of your position and claims.

Of course, I on the other hand have, do, and continue .

[amadeus]

All right. Let’s just take one example of this nonsense:

Northern Europeans were able to conquer the world because during the ice ages they learned to come together in ever larger cooperative societies to survive.

First, definition of Northern Europeans. Does this include Scandinavia as well as the North European Plain?

Second, I’m not sure exactly the time frame you are talking about when you say “ice ages.” There is the most recent ice age, which is generally coterminous with the Pleistocene, but there were several glacial and interglacial periods in the most recent ice age. Of which of these do you refer? Nor do I know if you are including the Holocene, which could be considered part of the ice age.

Third, what do you mean by “conquering the world?” Which world, when world? When and where exactly did this first happen?

[amadeus]

Oh, and fourth. Which larger cooperative communities? When was there no cooperation?

[amadeus]

All right. Let’s take another nonsense assertion:

t was certainly not successful in the long term as the families and clans were repeatedly wiped out in natural disasters and by each other when they intruded on each others hunting grounds.

Where is the archaeological evidence that families and clans were routinely wiped out by natural disasters and which hunting grounds, exactly, are you speaking of? Do you have a map of prehistoric hunting grounds?. By the way the term “clan” is never applied to prehistoric or even historic hunter-gatherer societies. People are wiped out today by natural disasters. So what?

[WildRose]

If you don’t know those answers already you aren’t even qualified to engage me.

Hint, the oldest known human in habitation of Scandinavia only dates back to about 14,700 years ago.

Major ice age 20-40,000 years ago, little ice ages that followed.

It includes the regions that already had humans at the time.