brand new plane!
https://airwaysmag.com/manufacturer/25th-anniversary-of-the-first-boeing-777-delivery/
the 777 is older then the 737NG for gods sake…it flew for united for years before the first 737NG even took flight!
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757? So who’s moving the bar now?
757 being safer then the 737 series of course. its not moving the goal post at all. its proving your initial comment to false…again, and again, and again. like what Germany did to Brazil during their world cup.
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Sorry, I was thinking of the 787.
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Only 1000 or so 757s were ever built. It was dropped from production because stretch versions of the 737 that it competed with were cheaper to build and therefore, to buy. Again, it was statistically safer because it had nowhere near the exposure to chance as the 737 has experienced.
its not though statistically safer if we are using your own metrics of fatalities per hours. it does not matter if there were 1 built or 100000 in the end there the 757 still has about 15 million miles per fatalities.
when you combined the 737 NG and the 737-200 the 757 outshines from a safety standpoint. so what if there were more sold? that is not the question.
speak of the 787…another one that has a higher safety record and as for “new” its been flying for almost a decade… and how many fatalies? 0!
you were wrong.
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Okay, I’m wrong. Several other aircraft (many of them Boeings) are statistically safer than the 737 series. But I will still board a Boeing aircraft, whether it be a 747, 757, 767, 777, or a 737 Max 8 , without hesitation. Upper Boeing management had , and perhaps still has, serious problems, but the technical and aeronautical skills of the company are unsurpassed. If you don’t want to get one of their planes until a bunch of their executives go to jail fine. At this point, I don’t think it has anything more to do with safety. If anything, it makes them safer.
Oh, and the 787 first entered commercial service in Oct 2011. That’s recently in my book. The 737 series, on the other hand has been flying since early 1968.
its not about whether “I” would get on their aircraft or not. its about the entire system and their willingness to lie, hide, scam, bribe, just so their marketing department can get some wins. their processes are still in place, their “aeronautical” skills created the severely flawed MCAS system and their technical skill somehow forgot to include redundancies. their test pilots hid facts from FAA inspectors and their liaison department conveniently forgot to let line pilot know of a major change in level 1/level 2 automation operation.
if you think decision were made in a vacuum and the people who made the decision are safely gone you are even more naïve then a person who think the 777 is a brand new aircraft…
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Why are you going personal? Did you have a personal stake in the Max incidents or is it something else?
That wasn’t personal, that was an example. You said you were mistaken and I had no reason to doubt that.
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If you don’t consider that a personal remark, I shudder to think what you would say if you decide to get personal. 
Since I try to follow the TOS guess we will not find out.
It’s all he has to offer here apparently and for some reason he’s allowed to get away with it.
That is going personal 
see the difference?
Update
This is where I say I told you all so and invite everyone who doubted me , mocked me, or derided me to eat 2.5billion dollars of crow.
“The misleading statements, half-truths, and omissions communicated by Boeing employees to the FAA impeded the government’s ability to ensure the safety of the flying public,” said U.S. Attorney Erin Nealy Cox for the Northern District of Texas. “This case sends a clear message: The Department of Justice will hold manufacturers like Boeing accountable for defrauding regulators – especially in industries where the stakes are this high.”
“Today’s deferred prosecution agreement holds Boeing and its employees accountable for their lack of candor with the FAA regarding MCAS,” said Special Agent in Charge Emmerson Buie Jr. of the FBI’s Chicago Field Office. “The substantial penalties and compensation Boeing will pay, demonstrate the consequences of failing to be fully transparent with government regulators. The public should be confident that government regulators are effectively doing their job, and those they regulate are being truthful and transparent.”
finally, now do more. get rid of the entire C-suite and make sure they have no golden parachute
https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2024/02/21/boeing-staff-shakeup-737-max/
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Yeah. They needed a scapegoat and he fit the bill quite nicely. The forensic examination of the door plug and the door frame in the fuselage concluded that the retainer bolts that keep the door from rising out of the retainer clips had never been installed. Gross negligence. The failure was inevitable and only pure luck prevented human casualties and loss of the aircraft.
I hope Alaska Airlines sues the pants off them.
its not just the plug door. the plug door is a symptom. MCAS was another symptom, the Rudder bolt is another, the engine A/I, is another. its symptomatic of a much deeper rot plaguing the MAX that i have been saying so since the beginning.
