Trump going to the border. Where's Chuck and Nancy?

[armycowboy]

The OP was designed to provoke, not to be intellectually honest.

[JayJay]

@altair1013

@Bodecea

Yet another thread by OP that provides great laughs. Seems that this is becoming a daily occurance.

I was just thinking the same thing. First yesterday’s thread…now this one.

Should Chuck and Nancy go to the border and learn from the experts?

Why do you think a random border patrol agent knows the most cost-effective way to provide total border security?

Please explain your reasoning other than the hand-picked ones we’ve heard from agree with Trump.

Please explain the REAL results of the survey of the Border Patrol, which stated nothing like support for a grandiose border wll that Trump envisions, but only the same types of strategic fencing that Democrats and Republicns have both supported in the past.

Would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[altair1013]

@Snagglepuss

You keep repeating this as though it was true, even though that’s been debunked.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/us/politics/border-patrol-wall-immigration-trump-senate-democrats.html

When asked to provide suggestions for how to improve border security, less than 1 out of every 200 border patrol agents even mentioned a wall.

Stop spreading the lies you’ve been told.

The NY times is not a reliable source. They are certainly not unbiased. There is zero degrees of separation from the NY times and the DNC. They are one and the same. If asked if a wall has improved security in areas where a wall exists, what does the border patrol say? They say yes. By at least 90 percent.

[Snagglepuss]

[quote=“altair1013, post:90, topic:108712”]
The NY times is not a reliable source. They are certainly not unbiased. There is zero degrees of separation from the NY times and the DNC. They are one and the same. If asked if a wall has improved security in areas where a wall exists, what does the border patrol say? They say yes. By at least 90 percent.
[/quote] Right…Trump says whatever he wants, without sources to back him up…totally credible.
An article in the NYT, using a govt study based on internal Customs and Border Protection documents…fake news.

Confirmation Bias…thy name is Altair.

[Yossarian]

@armycowboy

@altair1013

Wrong. You are absolutely making a claim that Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Schumer do not know anything about border security. Learn the difference huh? Fascinating attempt at spinning your way out of this one. Lol

Their ideas conflict with the experts. They need to learn from the experts Lol.

The Congressman who represents McAllen opposes the wall.

Will Hurd R-TX, whose district covers more of the border than anyone else’s opposed the wall

[BlueTex]

@altair1013

Should Chuck and Nancy go to the border and learn from the experts?

Why are the “experts” hanging out in McAllen, Texas? Wouldn’t they be in Washington where their expertise is useful?

[sikofit]

@Yossarian

Will Hurd R-TX , whose district covers more of the border than anyone else’s opposed the wall

There’s not a single person in Congress (R&D alike) whose district is on the border that supports the Wall. But it’s an emergency…

[madasheck]

@altair1013

@Bodecea

Yet another thread by OP that provides great laughs. Seems that this is becoming a daily occurance.

I was just thinking the same thing. First yesterday’s thread…now this one.

Should Chuck and Nancy go to the border and learn from the experts?

How about Trump talking to federal workers?

[MrSmith20001]

I am going to have to disagree with your assessment.

The experts are folks who have a career in security design and engineers. Some may work in DHS. Do we know if some of the experts from DHS are coming to the border with President Trump?

[madasheck]

@altair1013

@Snagglepuss

You keep repeating this as though it was true, even though that’s been debunked.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/us/politics/border-patrol-wall-immigration-trump-senate-democrats.html

When asked to provide suggestions for how to improve border security, less than 1 out of every 200 border patrol agents even mentioned a wall.

Stop spreading the lies you’ve been told.

The NY times is not a reliable source. They are certainly not unbiased. There is zero degrees of separation from the NY times and the DNC. They are one and the same. If asked if a wall has improved security in areas where a wall exists, what does the border patrol say? They say yes. By at least 90 percent.

Where does this evaluation of the Times come from? Source, please.

[ImSuperior]

Ha. There were only 310,000 people apprehended at the border for illegal entry into this country in 2017. We know that border patrol apprehends nearly all attempted entrants. That insignificant amount is only equivalent to the population of St Louis attempting to illegally enter the county every year. This is clearly not a problem; resources would be better utilized elsewhere.

2017 Report

[WorldWatcher]

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Maybe someone with better Google Fu can find the raw report on the National Border Patrol Council survey which means Border Patrol agents support barriers in strategic locations.

All I’ve been able to find are new stories.

Maybe the raw survey would convince some that quote is accurate.

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[BabyBlue]

@JayJay

I can’t wait for Trump to tell us something he just learned that everybody else already knows in that fascinating way he does.

“A lot of don’t know this, but there’s a big river between us and Mexico on a lot of the border!”

And it’s very wet.

[GrandWazoo]

@altair1013

They say yes. By at least 90 percent.

Source please. Thanks.

[Snagglepuss]

It won’t convince anyone in Trumpland. They’ve already made up their minds, and anything that disputes their belief in the infallibility of Trump is automatically registered as ‘fake news’.

[Bodecea]

@madasheck

@altair1013

The President is heading to the border. This is a good idea. But it would have been a better idea if he had brought Chuck and Nancy with him. They are certainly the farthest things from border security experts. They could have learned a lot from the real experts. Even without the President. Chuck and Nancy need to go and learn something. They need to talk with those who actually have a clue. Chuck and Nancy know nothing about border security. They should go. Today.

Trump should visit the government workers he’s hurting with this shutdown, not do a photo op at the border.

An interesting fact…the Coast Guard is not getting paid…here are some helpful tips for them to get by:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2019/01/09/coast-guard-families-told-they-can-have-garage-sales-cope-with-government-shutdown/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a57455bd01f3

[BabyBlue]

@armycowboy

The OP was designed to provoke, not to be intellectually honest.

That seems to always be the case.

[Bodecea]

@altair1013

@Bodecea

What makes you say that they don’t have the foggiest idea about border security?

The fact that they oppose what the real border experts have told them works. Somebody does know what they are talking about because they live it every day. That somebody is not Chuck and Nancy. If they went down to the border and actually got schooled a little, maybe they would see the light?

We have heard “real border experts” say we need a wall and we have had “real border experts” say we do not need a wall…are you saying you are only going to pay attention to the “real border experts” who agree with what you want to believe? (which, of course, is what tiny trump tells you to believe)

[Bodecea]

@WorldWatcher

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Just watched Trump leaving for Texas.

He said that the numbers were wrong, most drugs came through areas where there were no walls - NOT through ports of entry.

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Well, he knows more than anyone else about everything. Just ask him.

[BigBear]

@altair1013

The President is heading to the border. This is a good idea. But it would have been a better idea if he had brought Chuck and Nancy with him. They are certainly the farthest things from border security experts. They could have learned a lot from the real experts. Even without the President. Chuck and Nancy need to go and learn something. They need to talk with those who actually have a clue. Chuck and Nancy know nothing about border security. They should go. Today.

A normal Congress (i.e., not the previous, irresponsible Republican-led 115th) brings the experts to Washington, to testify at hearings on an important matter like Trump’s proposed wall. Republicans didn’t hold any hearings because the results would expose the wall for what it is: a stupid campaign promise made by an ignorant man, and a proposed expensive monument to stupidity. Experts would explain in DC, in public, what they’ve explained when asked: there are far better, more effective ways to spend money on border security than this boondoggle.