Trump Declares He Will End Birthright Citizenship

They didn’t always feel this way: Harry Reid 1993: 'No Sane Country' Would Do Birthright Citizenship; 9-20-1993 - YouTube

Harry Reid was not the only Democrat that expressed these types of sentiments years ago,others did as well, but that was when the Democrat Party actually cared to some degree about the working middle class. The fact is that our Congress should have addressed this decades ago when they saw this abuse of this law happening, but they did not.

Whatever was the actual intent of this law I think that we can all agree that the framers of this Amendment were not intending this to be a means of encouraging impoverished women from other countries to come here so they could put their children in our welfare system at the expense of the American taxpayer.

Here is a question I was thinking about. If the purpose of the 14th Amendment was to also grant citizenship to the children of people here illegally, why does it not address their parents? How does it make sense to grant the child citizenship on the one hand and then turn around and deport their parents?

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Correct. There are many! El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Mexico, to mention a few.

JWK

American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.

Well, Calvin, I’m waiting for you to cite that law.

JWK

Birthright citizenship has expanded the welfare roles! And what do you expect when the vast majority of birthright babies have a mother from a poverty stricken country with a poorly educated, low and unskilled population?

Consequences of illegal immigration

Let us take a look at the destructive social and economic consequences in just one county in California inflicted upon its citizens in 1995 when this massive invasion of our borders began to accelerate. CLICK HERE and scroll to page 93 for testimony given by JOAN ZINSER before the COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DECEMBER 13, 1995

Good morning Chairman Smith and other honorable members of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims. I am Joan Zinser, Deputy Director of the San Diego County Department of Social Services. I direct the department’s Income Maintenance Bureau, which has responsibility for AFDC, Food Stamps and Medicaid eligibility determinations. I am here today to tell you about the effects of illegal immigration on the County’s assistance programs, and to present information regarding impacts on other county-funded services.

Impacts on San Diego County

In 1993, illegal aliens in San Diego County were estimated to be 7.9% of the population, or a total of almost 220,000 illegal aliens in a county with a population of slightly over 2 1/2 million. A 1993 Calffornia State Senate report estimated that the State, local governments - primarily the County - and schools incurred $304 million in costs to provide services to illegal aliens. These costs were offset by only $60 million in taxes generated by illegal aliens - leaving a net impact of $244 million.

Welfare Costs.

When a child is a US citizen, AFDC can be granted for the child but not the parent, if the parent is an undocumented immigrant. In 1992 there were 6,414 children born to undocumented immigrant parents in San Diego County hospitals. Each year, the illegal alien parents of nearly 2000 “citizen children” apply for and receive AFDC in San Diego County. The cumulative total of these “citizen child” cases continues to rise each year.

Public assistance is intended to support the citizen child, but is paid to the illegal alien parent and is, no doubt, used by the parent to support the entire family. Costs for providing AFDC to “citizen children” cases in San Diego totaled $37 million in 1993 for approximately 5430 AFDC cases.

Additional costs are incurred in Child Welfare Services. Combining costs for Out-of-Home and Family Maintenance services to families of illegal aliens results in an additional cost of $1.7 million.

Medicaid and Other Health-Related- Costs.

Medicaid services are an increasingly large portion of the costs involved in illegal immigration. In 1992, Medicaid paid for 6,414 births illegal alien mothers. Although studies have shown that illegal aliens use fewer Medicaid services than do the age-equivalent members of the general population, significant costs remain. Delivery costs are greater for babies with mothers lacking adequate prenatal care and many medical conditions are treated more cost-effectively in their early stages. Infectious diseases are also a major concern of the County. San Diego County has historically carried large costs because of illegal aliens with these problems. Costs associated with providing emergency and pregnancy related needs to illegal aliens are paid for under “restricted Medi-Cal benefits.” During the 1992 calendar year, an estimated $37 million was paid for “restricted Medi-Cal benefits.” Other costs, including uncompensated care in hospitals, community clinics, and other health services elevated the 1993 total costs to over $50 million.

Criminal justice.

A recent 90-day pilot project involved having INS Agents present in the county jails to interview those suspected of being an undocumented immigrant. Approximately 20% of the persons booked into the jails during that pilot were identified as being illegal aliens. With annual bookings of approximatel 105,000 persons a year, it is estimated that up to 21,000 were illegal aliens.

According to the San Diego County District Attorney, 8,521 felony crimes were committed by illegal aliens between 1987 and 1992. Illegal aliens commit an estimated 22% of felony crimes committed in the county. The number of misdemeanors committed during the same period in San Diego County by illegal aliens is estimated to be 17,000. In 1993, approximately 15. 1 % of the costs -accrued in dealing with crimes were spent on illegal aliens. Costs for illegal aliens to the legal system totaled $151 million in the County of San Diego for 1993.

Education.

Recently, a video of students crossing the border and getting on a school bus in San Diego County in order to receive free education was shown nationwide. Locally, we have worked to make sure that this situation does not recur, but education of the children of illegal aliens is also a significant CDSt. It is estimated that $60 million was spent in San Diego County in 1993 for education of illegal aliens.

And, more recently see:

Illegal aliens cost California billions

2004

”Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California — which has the highest number of illegal aliens nationwide — $10.5 billion a year for education, health care and incarceration, according to a study released yesterday.”

Also see: Testimony about “51 Florida Hospitals in trouble” due to illegal aliens expenses:

Jun 10, 2008

”No need to editorialize. Here is a sampling of the sort of facts the politicians and pro-illegal lobby want you to ignore, yet expect you to continue to bear the burden of. Is it any wonder scores of hospitals in border states and elsewhere have shut down or closed their ER units!!!”

Then take a look at [color=blue]Texas Faces Rising Cost For Illegal Immigrant Care[/color]

Aug 19, 2010

Texas spent at least $250 million in the past year for medical care and imprisonment of illegal immigrants and other non-citizens.

And how about this: The Fiscal Cost of Unlawful Immigrants and Amnesty to the U.S. Taxpayer

May 6, 2013

”In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers. Amnesty would provide unlawful households with access to over 80 means-tested welfare programs, Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare. The fiscal deficit for each household would soar.”

And what about the tens of thousands of criminal aliens released into our nation’s population? See: Judicial Watch: 165,900 Criminal Aliens into US Population Through April 2014

Mar 2015

”Nearly 166,000 convicted criminal illegal aliens were released by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as of April, 2014. This is the analysis of 76 pages of DHS documents obtained by Judicial Watch via Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. The criminal illegal aliens include rapists, murderers and kidnappers.”

Even Bill Clinton, back in 1995, was saying the same things President Trump is now saying about illegal immigration. LINK

Now, the question is, do you support an America first immigration policy which is merit based and forbids “immigrants” from receiving government cheese for at least five years?

JWK

American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.

I can’t wait for Barron Trump to lose his citizenship. Anchor baby.

Dicta, not precedent.

No it’s not a good thing and using your argument that expanding the population is a good thing because it expands the economy, when does it end? A billion people? Two billion? Ten? We’ll see how great it is when the water tables start drying up. Which isn’t far off.

Exactly! They just don’t get it, or don’t want to get it.

JWK

Dicta because the judge recognizes that it’s a long settled question… I’ll ask you the same question I asked @Roxiebelle in the other thread:

In the 120 years since United States v. Wong Kim Ark nobody has thought to challenge this in court ?

Why has nobody challenged this in the 120 years since United States v. Wong Kim Ark?

Bzzt, he is not the child of illegal immigrants.

Overly simplistic argument.

Par for the course for you.

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Wong Kim Ark has nothing to do with addressing the question if the wording in the 14th Amendment grants citizenship to children born to foreign nationals while on American soil, or grants citizenship to children born to illegal entrants while on American soil.

The case is totally irrelevant to the legislative intent and meaning of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” which is a constitutional limit placed on granting citizenship.

:roll_eyes:

JWK

American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.

He’s an anchor baby born to a woman who was not a citizen. I see through the Trump charade. DEPORT BARRON

Are you under the delusion that this argument is new?

The court treated the right to bear arms as a collective instead of an individual right for just as long, things can change when you get enough Justices who follow the constitution as written and intended on the bench.

From what I can tell, she became a US citizen in 2006, the same year he was born, haven’t found an exact date on it yet, but in any case, his father was a citizen and she was at the very least a lawful resident, not an illegal alien, at the time of his birth.

Barron was born in March, Melania did not take the oath till July…

Good luck in court…