Trump Debt/Deficit

ComfortablyNumb · 2019-01-08T16:44:23.424Z

Smyrna:

I can’t speak for the trillion but the 5 billion I referred to will save our country many times that amount every year there after. This is an investment that will pay large dividends that will help lower the trillion dollar deficit and it really is that simple my friend.

The bold is patently false. Not only will $5.7B not construct near enough barrier/fencing to even make a dent in border crossings, but additionally, border crossings are not even the majority reason for illegal immigrants being in the country illegally. Why make such demonstrably false claims like this?

MrSmith20001 · 2019-01-08T16:56:34.752Z

Maybe the government can contact one of those debt forgiveness agencies I hear on the radio and TV once in a while.

Uncle Sam can tell the American people “Before I contacted Debt Forgiveness, I owed 21 Trillion dollars. With Debt Forgiveness, I was able reduce down my debt to a mere 2 thousand dollars. Thanks Debt Forgiveness!”

Smyrna · 2019-01-08T21:37:06.164Z

Snagglepuss:

Walls work for the specific circumstances. The southern border does not meet those circumstances.

Yeah…what does the border patrol know who says it’s absolutely necessary.

Snagglepuss · 2019-01-08T23:23:34.854Z

nytimes.com – 22 Mar 18

What Border Agents Say They Want (It’s Not a Wall) (Published 2018)

A report released by Democrats on the Senate Homeland Security Committee found that agents more often cited needs for technology and personnel to secure the border with Mexico.

“The report was based on internal Customs and Border Protection documents from the 2017 fiscal year. It concluded that less than one half of 1 percent of the agents’ suggestions to secure the Southwest border mentioned the need for a wall.”

Yep…sounds like they REALLY think that it is absolutely necessary…

Snagglepuss · 2019-01-08T23:25:58.529Z

Smyrna:

Yeah…what does the border patrol know who says it’s absolutely necessary.

Less than 1 out of every 200 agents even made mention of a wall as a possible suggestion to help secure the border.

Yep…sounds like the definitely feel its necessary.

Grassroots · 2019-01-08T23:46:24.960Z

Oh, but that 1 guy will be trotted out by the administration as much as possible!

Snagglepuss · 2019-01-09T01:38:04.865Z

Exactly right.

goodbyte · 2019-01-09T03:33:31.889Z

Grassroots:

Oh, but that 1 guy will be trotted out by the administration as much as possible!

Hopefully it’s Joe the Plumber. Whatever happened to him anyway?

Borgia_dude · 2019-01-09T19:50:03.382Z

I actually will admit that a wall will reduce illegal immigration. It would certainly make it more difficult and costly to cross if tunnels, planes, and boats become the norm. Plus there are some areas of the border where we just can’t place a wall effectively.

I would hope we can all agree to that. But will the reduction in illegal immigration be worth the cost?

I’d be willing to compromise if building more wall where it makes sense.

Smyrna · 2019-01-11T14:49:44.117Z

Snagglepuss:

Yep…sounds like they REALLY think that it is absolutely necessary…

It sounds to me as if you’re being obtuse about this or it’s something else that you don’t have control of?

JUDD: I don’t think it’s going to be - well, OK, it’s going to be a lot more secure. But what we’re talking about is we’re talking about a wall in strategic locations. We’re not talking about a great wall of the United States. We’re not talking about a continuous wall from California down to Texas. We’re talking about a wall in strategic locations which then helps the Border Patrol agents do their job better.

NPR

Head Of Border Patrol Union Weighs In On Trump's Wall Plans

The U.S. Border Patrol agents' union backed Donald Trump's candidacy. Steve Inskeep talks with union leader Brandon Judd about the president's executive action on a border wall and sanctuary cities.

Bigjohn · 2019-01-11T14:55:08.014Z

“we’re talking about a wall in strategic locations” like off Galveston to stop one of the united States biggest ports and the 4th largest city from flooding I would suggest thats the best “Strategic location”

calirepub · 2019-01-11T15:04:43.632Z

There is already 653 miles of physical security (border/fence) between the United States and Mexico. We could argue about in what areas more physical barriers make sense, however much of the area where there is not currently a physical barrier do not make sense for a variety of reasons.

Borgia_dude · 2019-01-11T16:46:33.742Z

Agreed. Like I said, it would be great to know where specifically Trump would buildxwall with the money he is requesting. Then we could debate if it made sense.

Cratic3947 · 2019-01-11T16:48:38.568Z

GeorgesTennis:

Wow, how come I haven’t heard the ‘conservative’ talks how hosts complaining about this debt/deficit under trump? FEDERAL SPENDING UP 145%!!! This is under trump.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Under Donald Trump, budget deficit projected to reach $1 trillion - Washington Times

Because he’s not the cause. We’ve had massive deficits for a decade, and it’s going to get worse as predicted long before Trump was pres…

DEms won’t even admit the cause…

blueapplepaste · 2019-01-11T17:25:02.488Z

So if things are sooooooooooo dire, why didn’t the “fiscally conservative” GOP pass bills to reign in spending and reduce the deficit and debt when they had all three branches of government?

Typical Trumpsters blaming others for them crashing the car while they were behind the wheel. Party of zero responsibility.

Cratic3947 · 2019-01-11T17:28:12.288Z

blueapplepaste:

So if things are sooooooooooo dire, why didn’t the “fiscally conservative” GOP pass bills to reign in spending and reduce the deficit and debt when they had all three branches of government?

Typical Trumpsters blaming others for them crashing the car while they were behind the wheel. Party of zero responsibility.

Because we have Rino’s… and dems are a top down party where no individuals allowed to think for themselves…

BabyBlue · 2019-01-11T19:07:30.664Z

Cratic3947:

blueapplepaste:

So if things are sooooooooooo dire, why didn’t the “fiscally conservative” GOP pass bills to reign in spending and reduce the deficit and debt when they had all three branches of government?

Typical Trumpsters blaming others for them crashing the car while they were behind the wheel. Party of zero responsibility.

Because we have Rino’s… and dems are a top down party where no individuals allowed to think for themselves…

Great response. It demonstrates depth of knowledge.

tnt · 2019-01-11T19:47:06.263Z

It’s funny that illegal immigration has been falling since about 2000.

That means it was higher under Obama than under trump.

Yet, under obama, all RW media talked about was the deficit and the debt.

Now, all they talk about is immigration, which is better than it was then…

So strange.

tnt · 2019-01-11T19:48:25.748Z

Cratic3947:

Because he’s not the cause. We’ve had massive deficits for a decade, and it’s going to get worse as predicted long before Trump was pres…

DEms won’t even admit the cause…

In the last years of Obama, the deficit was getting better. Now it is getting worse.

What on earth are you talking about?

ComfortablyNumb · 2019-01-11T19:50:03.789Z

Cratic3947:

blueapplepaste:

So if things are sooooooooooo dire, why didn’t the “fiscally conservative” GOP pass bills to reign in spending and reduce the deficit and debt when they had all three branches of government?

Typical Trumpsters blaming others for them crashing the car while they were behind the wheel. Party of zero responsibility.

Because we have Rino’s… and dems are a top down party where no individuals allowed to think for themselves…

Completely and wholly inaccurate post.