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Then why are you not calling for a review of our election standards and laws and wanting to see if there were any shenanigans?
You shouldn’t be afraid. You should be asking for the same thing.
Either side has the ability and right to question the results and go through the legal process.
I’m willing to wait it out and see if anything was wrong and done illegally in regards to the sanctity of the vote. That is all.
Jezcoe
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It is dangerous to continue on this path of claiming that there was massive fraud across several States when in every case there has been zero evidence of this being so.
Every single objection, every single court case is evaporating. There is nothing to show anything more than that Trump lost.
What is dangerous is that he is acting like he has not and there are people who are supporting that fiction.
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Jezcoe
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Which investigations are you talking about?
Mueller? That was a Special council that was appointed by Rosenstein… a. Republican.
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RTchoke:

Jezcoe:
This is the important part right here
It won’t change the outcome
It will work to delegitimize Biden though.
Then why are you not calling for a review of our election standards and laws and wanting to see if there were any shenanigans?
You shouldn’t be afraid. You should be asking for the same thing.
Either side has the ability and right to question the results and go through the legal process.
I’m willing to wait it out and see if anything was wrong and done illegally in regards to the sanctity of the vote. That is all.
I am not afraid.
In an election of over 14 million people voting I am sure that in a number set that large you will find irregularities if you look for them.
What you won’t find is a concerted effort to change the vote in such an extreme way as to change the election over several States.
That is what is being argued.
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Jezcoe:

RTchoke:

Jezcoe:
None of this is going to change the result of the election.
This is a transparent move to delegitimize the Biden administration. That’s all.
It is a dangerous game that the GOP is playing here.
Making sure the election was fair with no fraud is dangerous?
Why wouldn’t libs want that?
It may not change the outcome but the basic tenant that our elections be fair should be something everyone embraces?
I’m more concerned about people who don’t want anyone to know if there were irregularities or fraud.
That is what is dangerous.
It is dangerous to continue on this path of claiming that there was massive fraud across several States when in every case there has been zero evidence of this being so.
Every single objection, every single court case is evaporating. There is nothing to show anything more than that Trump lost.
What is dangerous is that he is acting like he has not and there are people who are supporting that fiction.
I like how libs suddenly don’t want anything checked out.
Check it out, if it’s ■■■■■■■■■ fine. If it’s not, then the process needs to be fixed.
it’s dangerous. What’s dangerous is sitting there telling everyone to look the other way and telling the person contesting to drop all the legal remedies available to them.
But if that’s the ■■■■ you want to shovel, be ready when it’s the other way around.
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RTchoke:

Jezcoe:

RTchoke:

Jezcoe:
None of this is going to change the result of the election.
This is a transparent move to delegitimize the Biden administration. That’s all.
It is a dangerous game that the GOP is playing here.
Making sure the election was fair with no fraud is dangerous?
Why wouldn’t libs want that?
It may not change the outcome but the basic tenant that our elections be fair should be something everyone embraces?
I’m more concerned about people who don’t want anyone to know if there were irregularities or fraud.
That is what is dangerous.
It is dangerous to continue on this path of claiming that there was massive fraud across several States when in every case there has been zero evidence of this being so.
Every single objection, every single court case is evaporating. There is nothing to show anything more than that Trump lost.
What is dangerous is that he is acting like he has not and there are people who are supporting that fiction.
I like how libs suddenly don’t want anything checked out.
Check it out, if it’s ■■■■■■■■■ fine. If it’s not, then the process needs to be fixed.
it’s dangerous. What’s dangerous is sitting there telling everyone to look the other way and telling the person contesting to drop all the legal remedies available to them.
But if that’s the ■■■■ you want to shovel, be ready when it’s the other way around.
What I see is routine election processes being called out as nefarious.
What I see is Republican Senate candidates calling on a Republican Secretary of State to step down because they didn’t win.
What I see is media machine willing to entertain the notion that there was massive fraud because reasons and sit back and say that they are thee reasonable ones.
It is insanity.
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Like I said, stand your ground.
However, don’t be a hypocrite when it’s turned around. 

Steel-W0LF:
You’re not keeping your stories straight.
We aren’t talking about poll observers in the room.
We were talking about paper being put over the windows so those outside couldn’t see in. It might not be against election rules, but its terrible optics…pun intended.
You saw the video of them putting the paper up over the windows, right? Did you notice that the cameras that were taking those videos were INSIDE the room? There were cameras and canvassers inside the room when that happened.
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RTchoke:
Like I said, stand your ground.
However, don’t be a hypocrite when it’s turned around. 
Turned around on what?
I have always referred to Donald J Trump as nothing more than " The President" the entire he has served in the office.
He won on 2016. Outright.
Will the same respect for Biden be provided by you?
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You know exactly what I meant.
You showed Trump respect?

Puhleeze.
Jezcoe
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I did.
I showed respect for the office of the presidency.
Go back and look and try to find me using a silly name for him.
Good luck… you won’t find it.
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Jezcoe:
I did.
I showed respect for the office of the presidency.
Go back and look and try to find me using a silly name for him.
Good luck… you won’t find it.
I did none of that for Obama either.
But if you think sitting here and saying you called him president means you were totally respectful of him during his term…get serious.
Oh wait, you expect me and others to support him by never criticizing or questioning what he does.
Yeah, that same respect y’all gave Trump.
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RTchoke:

Jezcoe:
I did.
I showed respect for the office of the presidency.
Go back and look and try to find me using a silly name for him.
Good luck… you won’t find it.
I did none of that for Obama either.
But if you think sitting here and saying you called him president means you were totally respectful of him during his term…get serious.
Oh wait, you expect me and others to support him by never criticizing or questioning what he does.
Yeah, that same respect y’all gave Trump.
Nope… criticize… question.
Still show respect.
I did.
Zander
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This sounds about right. Certainly nothing outside the natural flow of the universe.
JayJay
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Before he leaves he is going to cause so much damage.
Don’t forget that part.

RTchoke:
I like how libs suddenly don’t want anything checked out.
Check it out, if it’s ■■■■■■■■■ fine. If it’s not, then the process needs to be fixed.
it’s dangerous. What’s dangerous is sitting there telling everyone to look the other way and telling the person contesting to drop all the legal remedies available to them.
But if that’s the ■■■■ you want to shovel, be ready when it’s the other way around.
Check it out! If there is accusations that there are irregularities to investigate, then investigate them. By all means, get to the bottom of what those irregularities are. Answer those questions.
Do you overturn the vote to do that? No! If there are accusations such that fraud occurred to a degree that would change the outcome of the election, then you might have an argument.
In this case, there is no argument that votes were changed, no accusation that ballots were stuffed, no accusation that anything will change the vote count to change the election results. NONE. I have read most of the court documents and have yet find one of the claims that argues that there are enough votes in question to overturn the election.
The best argument Trump has had so far is “We could not see the count the vote and they might have been able to cheat when we weren’t watching” That’s just sad.
In the meantime, bring forth an argument you can win. Claim that some specific votes were fraudulent. They don’t have that. Their best remedy right now is to try to throw out almost 600,000 votes in PA. No judge in this country is going to allow that.
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Then respect his decision to use the legal remedies BOTH sides have if they choose to use them.
That’s all I’m doing.
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Oh, you’re under the impression I am asking them to overturn the vote, when all I am arguing is to look at the process and make sure it was fraud free.
If you can’t do that and get everyone to agree that the election process is safe and secure, you will never convince people to accept the results of any future election as being legit.
Let it play out and uphold the system or show the flaws that may need correction.