Trump calls Trudeau 'two-faced', cancels press conference and leaves Nato summit early after video of world leaders making fun of him

Smyrna · 2019-12-08T14:42:51.069Z

Jezcoe:

I didn’t bring race into this. So none of that other stuff matters.

Nor have I brought in to question Crowley’s character. So none of that really matters.

Just face it.

You are advocating for the power of the police to be able to place under arrest people for not showing the “proper” amount of deference.

That is dangerous.

Very very dangerous.

It very much matters. If race was not a motivation and Crowley’s character and professionalism are removed as possible motivations, what’s left? Oh yeah…Gates’s behavior. As documented by the video, his behavior was so over the top, it created the grounds for his arrest. What you are advocating is dangerous. “We” don’t live in la-la land and there is a basic amount of respect that must accompany all of us for both our laws and those enforcing them. What you are advocating will only promote the deaths of many who arrogantly choose to disregard legal commands, by those entrusted to enforce our laws. What you are advocating is absolutely ridiculous and very dangerous.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2019-12-08T14:44:40.917Z

I don’t believe there is video of Gates’s arrest.

Is it possible you’re confused?

TheDoctorIsIn · 2019-12-08T14:46:33.462Z

What you are advocating is arresting people for saying things the police don’t like.

You don’t see how that’s a problem?

Jezcoe · 2019-12-08T14:48:31.669Z

Smyrna:

Jezcoe:

I didn’t bring race into this. So none of that other stuff matters.

Nor have I brought in to question Crowley’s character. So none of that really matters.

Just face it.

You are advocating for the power of the police to be able to place under arrest people for not showing the “proper” amount of deference.

That is dangerous.

Very very dangerous.

It very much matters. If race was not a motivation and Crowley’s character and professionalism are removed as possible motivations, what’s left? Oh yeah…Gates’s behavior…as documented by the video showing his behavior was so over the top, it created the grounds for his arrest. What you are advocating is dangerous. “We” don’t live in la-la land and there is a basic amount of respect that must accompany all of us for both our laws and those enforcing them. What you are advocating will only promote the deaths of many who arrogantly choose to disregard legal commands, by those entrusted to enforce our laws. What you are advocating is absolutely ridiculous and very dangerous.

Being rude is not a reason for arrest.

Not showing a proper amount of respect is not a reason for arrest.

Neither of those things are crimes.

Therefore, placing someone under arrest for that is an abuse of police power.

I am kinda… but not really… amazed that one who calls people sheep would hold the opinion that lacking proper respect… being completely legal… would warrant arrest and detainment.

It boggles the mind.

Plasmaball · 2019-12-08T17:43:52.938Z

Oh ih is this one of those arguments where you need to respect the police unless you are a cattle rancher and then you can amass an army to fight the feds…?

Cid_the_Engineer · 2019-12-09T00:08:57.512Z

I’ll give you 5.

Putin, Kim, Erdogan, Duarte & MBS all seem to like him. Those are all our allies right?

Liking him and thinking he’s a moron are two different things. It’s very possible to for them to like him despite him being a complete moron because he happens to be easily manipulated into furthering their goals.

Putin and MBS almost certainly believe he’s a retard. Kim, Duterte, and Erdogan are the ones most similar to him in their obsessive egomaniacal desire to flaunt their power(s).

Borgia_dude · 2019-12-09T02:34:13.909Z

Smyrna:

You can attempt to spin reality any way you “feel” but if everyone in our world acted like Gates, there’d be no civility…period.

Which, according to sheeple, seems to be an arrestable offense, right?

WildRose · 2019-12-09T04:47:05.521Z

The part where he was resisting and interfering with officers performing an investigation.

They were responding to a B&E call and he admitted to having forced the door.

The cops acted completely appropriately.

WildRose · 2019-12-09T04:47:33.866Z

He delayed them getting to a damned ■■■■ tail party.

WildRose · 2019-12-09T04:49:46.735Z

The charges were dropped because it was a huge political bombshell, not because they were improper or because the police did anything wrong.

SeaManatee · 2019-12-09T04:57:24.774Z

Trump brags about being a whiner.

People call him a whiner.

Trump defenders say it’s the liberals who are the whiners.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2019-12-09T05:03:52.775Z

At the point at which he was arrested, he had already adequately demonstrated to the officer that he was in fact, in his own home.

This is stated in Crowley’s report.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2019-12-09T05:05:09.058Z

No, the charges were dropped because they would have almost certainly been tossed out on 1st Amendment grounds, and the police would have lost their ability to humble.

WildRose · 2019-12-09T06:29:31.561Z

After having refused to ID himself and becoming abusive with them hindering their ability to do their job.

He then continued being an ass and he was lucky the only charge he got was the DC charge.

TommyLucchese · 2019-12-09T10:11:58.087Z

Plasmaball:

Oh ih is this one of those arguments where you need to respect the police unless you are a cattle rancher and then you can amass an army to fight the feds…?

El oh el.

Jezcoe · 2019-12-09T10:59:43.621Z

WildRose:

The part where he was resisting and interfering with officers performing an investigation.

They were responding to a B&E call and he admitted to having forced the door.

The cops acted completely appropriately.

Gates was not arrested for breaking into his own home.

The police report showed that they knew that he lived there.

The charges were dropped because there was no crime.

Arresting someone for being rude or lacking deference isn’t something that we should be encouraging or defending

Jezcoe · 2019-12-09T11:00:14.583Z

WildRose:

The charges were dropped because it was a huge political bombshell, not because they were improper or because the police did anything wrong.

The charges were dropped because there was no crime committed.

Jezcoe · 2019-12-09T11:02:46.916Z

WildRose:

After having refused to ID himself and becoming abusive with them hindering their ability to do their job.

He then continued being an ass and he was lucky the only charge he got was the DC charge.

Gates identified himself.

Being verbally abusive to the police is not a crime.

Plasmaball · 2019-12-09T11:15:17.985Z

We have the legal right to flip a cop off.

Jezcoe · 2019-12-09T11:17:30.387Z

Plasmaball:

We have the legal right to flip a cop off.

Remember the days of arguing in detail as to whether someone pointing a rifle at federal agents from a hidden position was a good or bad thing?

Yeah… me too.