DougBH
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Ok. Then yes, you are correct. The report is being hidden until the DOJ has finished redacting appropriate parts.
dantes
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Yes, and those redacted parts will continue to be hidden as they are redacted.
DougBH
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Of course they will. Thatâs what redactions do. Democrats are all for national security and keeping our sources and means secret. They told us that when some wanted to find out the details of what initiated the collusion investigation.
dantes
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Youâre confusing different issues. You wanted to publicly release classified information concerning an ongoing investigation.
Iâm wanting the DoJ to release confidential information to Congress about a completed investigation.
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I do. You trusted Mueller to give you the dream you made up in your head. When he didnât find what you wanted and gave the report to Barr. Who reported what Mueller had told him and written in his report you knew you were going to look like a partisan hack if you came out and said Mueller covered up for Trump. So now you want to hide behind Barr and say coverup. When not only Barr decided what to release in the first report but several other people at the DOJ decided what to release including your man Rosenstein.
Thatâs a pretty common strategy these days because everybody has told at least one lie in their life. So that means that Donald Trump = everybody else on the planet. Everybody is a liar.
Snow96
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So then why didnât mualler file charges? Why didnât Barr?
NJBob
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If Mueller is following the Jaworski template it wouldnât be his place to do so.
Barr is Trumpâs lap dog.
Snow96
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Still didnât answer. Why didnât Mueller file charges? He was authorized to do so.
NJBob
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Why didnât Jaworski file charges?
So angry over an intended term of endearment. Interesting. Iâve called many men âmy brotherâ, and many women âmy dearâ over my many decades on this earth. This may be the first Iâve been accused of an attempt at âputting a woman in her placeâ as a result. Perhaps introspection is in order?
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Snow96
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So he was authorized to file charges against anyone but Trump?
NJBob
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This can all be cleared up it the Mueller report is released.
Are you against it being released?
DOJ policy is that a sitting president canât be indicted.
Snow96
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Our determination was made without regard to, and is not based on, the constitutional considerations that surround the indictment and criminal prosecution of a sitting president.
So did Barr send a written lie to congress?
I was speaking more to Mueller than Barr. Barr is simply doing what he was hired to do.
When there were no new indictments and Barr issued his summary I thought either Trump had skated or was innocent.
But i canât seem to find one hardcore Republican who wants to see the full report (or most of it) released to the public (without a bunch of asterisks). Thatâs really, really odd.
And it really has nothing to do with the constitution. It has to do with DOJ policy and both Mueller and Barr fall under the DOJ.
### WHAT IS THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT POLICY?
In 1973, in the midst of the Watergate scandal engulfing President Richard Nixon, the Justice Departmentâs Office of Legal Counsel adopted in an internal memo the position that a sitting president cannot be indicted. Nixon resigned in 1974, with the House of Representatives moving toward impeaching him.
âThe spectacle of an indicted president still trying to serve as Chief Executive boggles the imagination,â the memo stated.
The department reaffirmed the policy in a 2000 memo, saying court decisions in the intervening years had not changed its conclusion that a sitting president is âconstitutionally immuneâ from indictment and criminal prosecution. It concluded that criminal charges against a president would âviolate the constitutional separation of powersâ delineating the authority of the executive, legislative and judicial branches of the U.S. government.
âThe indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would unconstitutionally undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions,â the memo stated.
The 1973 and 2000 memos are binding on Justice Department employees, including Mueller, according to many legal experts. Mueller was appointed in May 2017 by the departmentâs No. 2 official Rod Rosenstein.