It wasn’t true.

ND doesn’t even have voter registration.

Certainly not! Liz would go on the warpath! :skull_and_crossbones:

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Exactly this!!

Peaceful protesting doesn’t get national attention during that time. Peaceful protestors getting hit with water and clubs gets national attention

He was quite brilliant. The self control that it took to do what he did was amazing. If he hated anyone, there was no visible sign of it. MLK and Jackie Robinson are heroes of mine. I have no idea where we would be without them.

I’m not ignoring that phrase. I am the one who introduced it into this conversation.

You do realize that it’s not a quote from MLK, right?
It’s from the letter imploring him to stop the protests and leave.

The unlawful protests are the “extreme measures.” The clergymen implored him to stop these extreme measures because they would continue to foment violence. In their letter they are asking him to call off the protests and leave Birmingham. They claimed that his provocative style of civil disobedience was not justified in Birmingham. They had hope that they would eventually receive economic and legal justice through the court system.

Then why did you quote it to begin with?

To provide context!

I quoted the letter from the clergymen. Paraphrased: Martin Luther King, Jr, please stop! Wait for the courts to resolve this desegregation issue. Leave. This is a local issue. We do not need your extreme measures (illegal protests) here in Birmingham. This is a local issue. Your methods have incited violence and will continue to bring hatred and violence. We don’t want or need that in our town during these hopeful times.

He responded: No! It’s not time to wait. The law is unjust. The protest–although illegal–is just. We realize that non-violent protest is likely to produce a violent response. We have prepared for that. The eyes of the nation are on Birmingham. This is how you get justice.

I thought you said you have read the letter from a Birmingham Jail many times. How can you miss the point so completely?

Because he didn’t read it… clearly

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D’ya think?

Hate to tell you but all they have to do is go to the tribal office and get a new tribal id and the tribe will give them an address. Not hard. This is just a bunch of gin up hooey.

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Their voting registration is not canceled.
All they have to do is go to their local tribal office and they will provide them with a new tribal id with an address.
What you think that us natives are too dumb or drunk to find the tribal office?

Your wrong there are street address on the rez and they do count. All they have to do is go to their local tribal office and they will give them a new id with an address. Even if the are homeless they will be given a tribal id with a street address. This is not something that just happened last week. They have had plenty of time to fix this issue. And have.

You just made my point again. Nowhere in it is he promoting violence. He says they are prepared for it if it breaks out but he’s in no way promoting or encouraging it.

Oh yeah he was in no way promoting or encouraging violence…

…other than planning and participating in protests that were certain to incite violence; preparing his fellow protestors to expect and withstand the inevitable violence; ignoring the pleas of his peers who said stop engaging in the extreme measures because they have and will continue to incite violence; rejecting the advice to pursue a remedy in the courts which would incite less violence; telling his peers that he and his fellow protestors are ready to give up their bodies to the violence; and encouraging others to continue in the campaign that would certainly incite more violence… other than these things, he did nothing to promote or encourage violence.

It’s laughable that you claim to have a point when earlier in this thread you couldn’t distinguish between the writing of clergymen who were pleading with MLK to stop inciting violence, and MLK who was arguing that the time for less provocative methods had past. He had disdain for those who would choose tranquility over justice.

I wonder how rural white voters vote with a PO Box?

I didn’t have a street address the whole time I was growing up. I guess my folks didn’t vote.

I simply responded to what you quoted.

He did nothing to encourage or promote violence he was a pacifist.

He understood that pacifism comes at a cost and spoke about it eloquently but he never encouraged or promoted violence in the name of civil rights.

We didn’t even have rural street addresses until Clinton’s 911 bill passed.

We had RR XYZ Box 123 Town and Zip.

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