Trump Administration Denies New York Citizens Equal Protection Under the Law

[WuWei]

I was referring to amnesty.

[H_Arendt]

@WuWei

I was referring to amnesty.

Who provided amnesty? And what does that have to do with the topic under discussion.

I raised a Constitutional issue concerning citizens who reside in New York State and the response of amnesty, crimes by illegal immigrants, sanctuary cities has been positively Pavlovian.

[WorldWatcher]

@H_Arendt

The only Constitutional issue I have brought up here is equal protection under the law as applied to New York States residents (and citizens) who apply to or renew Global Services. Others keep broadening the discussion but I brought this up as a fairly narrow matter.

And on that narrow issue if New York is blocking required background checks for New York residents, then the problem is with New York in blocking background checks for all New Yorkers.

New York could have said we will provide background checks only on those that hold a valid Real ID complaint ID (since Standard - i.e. non-Real ID holders wouldn’t qualify anyway), but instead blocked all background checks…

Seems the problem will be the way New York blocked the security checks for a federal trusted traveler program. “Trusted” meaning “Hey we’ve checked this person out and their are OK.”
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[WuWei]

@H_Arendt

and the right found a hot-button issue by yelling at amnesty at every proposal. There has not been a basis for debate since.

You brought it up.

Reagan provided based on promises broken by libs.

[H_Arendt]

@WorldWatcher

@H_Arendt

The only Constitutional issue I have brought up here is equal protection under the law as applied to New York States residents (and citizens) who apply to or renew Global Services. Others keep broadening the discussion but I brought this up as a fairly narrow matter.

And on that narrow issue if New York is blocking required background checks for New York residents, then the problem is with New York in blocking background checks for all New Yorkers.

New York could have said we will provide background checks only on those that hold a valid Real ID complaint ID (since Standard - i.e. non-Real ID holders wouldn’t qualify anyway), but instead blocked all background checks…

Seems the problem will be the way New York blocked the security checks for a federal trusted traveler program. “Trusted” meaning “Hey we’ve checked this person out and their are OK.”
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Not the way I’m reading it, but we’ll see where the courts come out on this one.

[WorldWatcher]

@H_Arendt

Not the way I’m reading it, but we’ll see where the courts come out on this one.

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Yep, I’d appreciate you keeping up to speed on the issue. You are correct, we’ll have to see what the courts have to say.

In this thread I’ve proposed two alternatives - one for New York and one for DHS as a way around the problem and that was with only a couple of minutes thought. You would think that lawmakers and DHS rule makers could have seen an alternative - if they had wanted.
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[STODR]

From DHS : “New York is the only state, that bears repeating, the only state that restricts CBP access to their DMV data across the board, not only for immigration purposes, but for law enforcement purposes, for customs purposes, but also for trade and travel facilitation purposes.”

Maybe they should have Tommy show them how to use his 20 dollar app.

DHS' Chad Wolf defends barring New York from Global Entry, TTP after Dems...

yea yes we know Fox News, DHS works for Trump, Trump bad

[Smyrna]

@FloridaYankee

What did my cousin who travels a lot and lives in NY state and supports Trump do to be punished like this?

…same thing as I having to endure the negative outcomes so many politicians breaking laws.

[Bosun]

I am not wasting your time

[Bosun]

You raised and withdrew the constitutionality my friend. Then you claimed I was wasting your time.

The was I see it, “(if) New York is blocking required background checks for New York residents, then the problem is with New York in blocking background checks for all New Yorkers.”

Sounds like it is a sanctuary state issue.

[Smyrna]

@Bosun

Sounds like it is a sanctuary state issue.

Bam…hammer meet nail.

[H_Arendt]

@Bosun

You raised and withdrew the constitutionality my friend. Then you claimed I was wasting your time.

The was I see it, “(if) New York is blocking required background checks for New York residents, then the problem is with New York in blocking background checks for all New Yorkers.”

Sounds like it is a sanctuary state issue.

If we believe the shift in the explanation of the action isn’t a matter of conveniently changing the story. Of course, a government agency would never do that, right?

[Bosun]

Woof woof. Barking dogs at night. Irritations for those of us who rise early and work for a living.

It is still a sanctuary state issue.

[altair1013]

@H_Arendt

No problem! You are free to vote him out in November. Most dictatorships don’t allow that.

I said he aspires; I didn’t say he succeeds. Trump aspires to dictatorship

According to whom? His political opponents?

[H_Arendt]

@altair1013

@H_Arendt

No problem! You are free to vote him out in November. Most dictatorships don’t allow that.

I said he aspires; I didn’t say he succeeds. Trump aspires to dictatorship

According to whom? His political opponents?

Why are all his close foreign relationships with autocrats: Putin, Kim Jung Un; Ertugan, while he seems unable to strike a collaborative tone with any democratically elected leaders?

[altair1013]

@H_Arendt

Why are all his close foreign relationships with autocrats: Putin, Kim Jung Un; Ertugan, while he seems unable to strike a collaborative tone with any democratically elected leaders?

You have been watching too much CNN. Trying to bring these countries into the civilized world is not necessarily a bad thing. He should definitely try. What’s the downside? He’s given them nothing in return. As far as democratic countries go, ever heard of Israel?

[H_Arendt]

@altair1013

@H_Arendt

Why are all his close foreign relationships with autocrats: Putin, Kim Jung Un; Ertugan, while he seems unable to strike a collaborative tone with any democratically elected leaders?

You have been watching too much CNN. Trying to bring these countries into the civilized world is not necessarily a bad thing. He should definitely try. What’s the downside? He’s given them nothing in return. As far as democratic countries go, ever heard of Israel?

He gave them nothing? You’ve been watching too much Fox.

He gave Erdogan Northern Syria (at cost to our former allies – the Kurds).

He gave Kim Jung Un international recognition no prior President had been stupid enough to give NK

He gave Putin a weakened Ukraine and relief from sanctions for specific preferred oligarchs.

And in return the US got NOTHING.

[mobiusptc]

update:

Update: Global Entry, TSA PreCheck website now accepts New Yorkers - The...

Homeland Security Dept. Admits Making False Statements in Fight With N.Y....

The surprise admission, contained in a court filing, said the inaccuracies “undermine a central argument” in the Trump administration’s case for barring New Yorkers from the programs after the state passed a law enabling undocumented immigrants to get driver’s licenses.

Federal officials had insisted that New York was an outlier in placing restrictions on immigration authorities from gaining access to state Department of Motor Vehicles records. For that reason, they argued, New York was endangering national security and could not be trusted to participate in Global Entry and related travel programs.

[CanadianJudo]

Seem they knew they would lose the lawsuit.

[ArgyleBush]

Ironically, with Trump’s COVID malfeasance, US citizens are now global pariahs, and not allowed to travel to Europe and other places, making the Global Entry program near useless.