Trump admin will issue a Rescission request of $15,000,000,000 to congress on Tuesday

Rurudyne · 2018-05-08T14:07:07.933Z

Do you recall ever reading my explanation of Republican partisanship?

This formed first as the events surrounding men like Jumping Jim Jeffords but is rooted farther back to Clinton’s early days and the subsequent Contract With America. It was further cemented by the events under Obama.

Look up Not So Radical Republicans, Reason magazine, 1998 for some contributing details.

So we’re talking long term consistency here.

The short, short version is that so-called moderate Republicans are spendthrift for many of the same objects that Democrats are BUT for purely partisan reasons they are able to cooperate with conservatives in opposition to a Democrat POTUS. But the reason for that restraint and cooperation goes away under a Republican POTUS, and it would have done so in Trump’s first year but the moderates are so opposed to him that they remained in opposition mode.

In fact, I recall posting at least once, though possibly on another forum, that it couldn’t last, that these same moderates would once again realize Trump is a Republican and though they don’t like him they like spending even more and would once again team up with the ever eager to spend Democrats and go to town.

That’s it. Not complex.

The astonishing thing is that Trump is offering at least some token resistance to them where W never did (not even this, never mind no vetoes till the Congress had been lost).

Now, about the budget … yep, horrific. But then again I loves me a shutdown (imagine the horror on the Left if people learned that the world wouldn’t end?).

Looking forward I can’t wait till the pathological liars and over the top spendthrift loons of the DNC will try to portray themselves as the party of responsibility as they did under W – fun fact: Republicans don’t like spendthrift and hold grudges against Republicans … also they are easily discouraged and tend to have short memories about what happens next. What happens next? Why the Democrats (whose base never gets upset about Democrat spending) show us what REAL spendthrift is like.

That’s always worse.

MidwestIndy · 2018-05-08T14:07:44.135Z

As they say, you can lead a horse to the trough. In this case the horses actually drink the water the GOP cowboys drunkenly pissed in.

Smyrna · 2018-05-08T14:20:16.559Z

I can’t answer it my friend. I can only say that in my world, I “squeak”.

lulubee · 2018-05-08T14:21:27.065Z

Rurudyne:

Why the Democrats (whose base never gets upset about Democrat spending) show us what REAL spendthrift is like.

That’s because we believe in big government, unlike R’s and C’s - who say they believe in small government but spend like they believe in big government only when they are in charge.

Democrats are consistent. Republicans are hypocrites.

Rurudyne · 2018-05-08T14:25:52.533Z

I remember Marla Maples. I don’t have a high opinion of anyone who runs casinos. That helps set forth a lot of my level of expectations. In fact, not only was my attitude about Trump along the lines of “Beam me up, Scotty” I even joked that based on the way Bloom County ended that write ins for Bill the Cat should go to The Donald.

(I also used to joke about “the The Blacks” in Trump and race threads)

Trump is still much better than Clinton, ignoring her progressivism she’s a woman who was already well versed in the art of pay for play and had the network to hit the ground running in to enrich herself and sell us all out.

Trump, I recall posting, would at least have to learn the ropes of Washington corruption. I needn’t have bothered as the Swamp hates him so much they are out to destroy, out for blood, and would eagerly ruin him and any note worthy supporters. Heck, just talking to one of Trump’s lawyers as Hannity did makes one a target.

So low expectations combined with a healthy dose of the MUCH lesser of evils … yeah, I’m okay-ish for now.

Rurudyne · 2018-05-08T14:26:34.728Z

It’s a consistency to be consistently opposed.

lulubee · 2018-05-08T14:33:25.147Z

Rurudyne:

It’s a consistency to be consistently opposed.

Except Republicans are not. They love to spend when they are in charge. See Bush the Second and Trump.

Rurudyne · 2018-05-08T14:35:48.453Z

I believe I stated as much in that earlier post.

Me, I’d be an axe weilding maniac if it was up to me. A POTUS takes an oath of office to uphold the Constitution … not the accumulated abuses and lawlessness since FDR slimed his way across the national stage.

lulubee · 2018-05-08T14:40:05.049Z

Rurudyne:

I believe I stated as much in that earlier post.

Me, I’d be an axe weilding maniac if it was up to me. A POTUS takes an oath of office to uphold the Constitution … not the accumulated abuses and lawlessness since FDR slimed his way across the national stage.

But you called D’s spendthrifts. That is not correct. We spend because we believe in government programs and that they are good for society.

MidwestIndy · 2018-05-08T14:41:04.075Z

Rurudyne:

Trump is still much better than Clinton, ignoring her progressivism she’s a woman who was already well versed in the art of pay for play and had the network to hit the ground running in to enrich herself and sell us all out.

You mean like having the government pay one or more of the properties you own in order to rent space for you to stay there?

He might as well have walked right into the Fed and said print me some money and put it in this duffel bag.

Rurudyne · 2018-05-08T15:05:39.140Z

What is believed is this:

Good times are the opportunity for spending

Bad times demand spending

I call it bring a Keystone Keynesian … not a real Keynesian but a spendthrift loon version.

Thinking you’re doing good is only a pretext, an excuse. It’s still being spendthrift. Any no one is more spendthrift than the loons at the DNC.

Rurudyne · 2018-05-08T15:06:43.145Z

Darn typos!

I hate not being able to edit!

lulubee · 2018-05-08T15:08:54.538Z

Rurudyne:

What is believed is this:

Good times are the opportunity for spending

Bad times demand spending

I call it bring a Keystone Keynesian … not a real Keynesian but a spendthrift loon version.

Thinking you’re doing good is only a pretext, an excuse. It’s still being spendthrift. Any no one is more spendthrift than the loons at the DNC.

That is your opinion. My opinion differs.

bluedogdem · 2018-05-08T15:10:06.994Z

you silly Libs… deficits dont matter under a Republican president

Rurudyne · 2018-05-08T15:23:47.314Z

No, I’m speaking about my suspicions that arise because though she was the presumptive winner, it’s simply the truth that her health was and is not good, that she could not count on completing her term of office to give her time to cement the overall Clinton legacy of greatness. ***

Speculation about what deals she may have had in the works, and what she’d indicated she’d be willing to give away along with the money to their foundation to get it … I’m glad we’ll never know. The ChiComs have a long history with the Clintons so maybe it would involve then in a token victory the media could crow about and lavish praise over forever (or at least till Christ returns) would have come with their involvement?

As for Kaine: he’s young, reasonably charismatic, unburdened with scandal and DNC swamp through and through. He’s also NOT Bernie. I think he was the DNC’s long term plan, finishing out her term and two more. I still think he’s who will be running in 2020.

*** the legacy that Clintonistas been chattering about since not long after he was first elected, and which is so tawdry that after 9/11 one of their number actually lamented on a talking head show that the timing of the attacks denied Bill Clinton an opportunity to show his greatness.

MoleUK · 2018-06-20T23:44:28.850Z

Trump failed to get the cuts passed.

MoleUK · 2018-06-20T23:45:09.402Z

CNN – 20 Jun 18

Senate rejects spending cuts package, a White House priority | CNN Politics

The Senate rejected a key White House priority Wednesday when it defeated a bill to claw back about $15 billion in previously appropriated government funding.

biggestal99 · 2018-06-21T10:21:39.389Z

And that’s that, another trump initiative that goes over like a lead ballon.

Allan

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-06-21T11:52:46.536Z

anyone keeping track of the national debt threads started by Trump Republicans since the election?

i keep saying this but i’m a thousand times more fiscally conservative than almost all Trump Republicans on this board.

PAmoderate37 · 2018-06-21T12:02:19.694Z

To be fair this really has nothing to do with Trump. the vast majority of Republicans have always been about tax cuts regardless of whether or not they could get spending cuts to go along with them.