Trump about to win on shutdown


#245

I think it behooves Trump more politically to be seen fighting for the wall (aka keep the brown people out and Make America White Again) than to actually have it built.


#246

But if he got the wall he would have been considered a success. Then he could move on to new enemies! The chants would be just as catchy.
“No more visas! No more green cards!”
“Hi ho! Food stamps got to go!”


#247

Nonsense…the fact that he is now begging for 1/5 of what he could have had last year is proof of his eleventy dimensional master negotiator skills. He has the Democrats right where he wants them!


#248

Well, of course. He NEEDS the wall/border talking point. It’s what got him elected-he doesn’t have anything else.


#249

I wonder if we had these same arguments when we were trying to keep the Irish out of the US.


#250

…and you are a one way street. Both Ds and Rs have had enough control at one time or another to enforce the 1986 agreement on this. Both parties are equally guilty…if…you open BOTH eyes.


#251

I’m not suggesting Democrats haven’t also failed to address the issue. But we both know that without GOP support in rural America, it doesn’t matter how much Democrats try and don’t try. Nothing will happen. The GOP is at fault through and through.


#252

Yeah…I know. :roll_eyes:


#253

Can you explain what wasn’t enforced in the 1986 agreement?


#254

Then why keep supporting that sell out of a party?


#255

I have to agree with Dr. James Mitchell, a U.S. Air Force veteran and former CIA interrogator, that the Dems orchestrated Shutdown is a ‘Narcissistic Power Grab.’


#256

What party is what??? It is now a RAVE party in the House of unRepresentatives. Nancy is the DJ.


#257

A narcissistic power grab to prevent a pointless wall the majority of Americans don’t support. I think that’s called democracy. What is the line so often used here? Oh yeah…”elections have consequences.”


#258

Well it depends on what the definition of is, Is, my dear brother SottoVoce


#259

Do you have something relevant.


#260

If you join the conversation with an open mind, Yes I do.


#261

There isn’t much of an indication that you do.


#262

Personal insults are not tolerated, my dear brother Tilly_jow.


#263

It wasn’t intended as an insult, just an observation.


#264

Perhaps an incorrect observation. You might have had an obstructed view.