Its the puberty one normally goes through naturally.
Smyrna
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Smyrna:
I’m saying that the environmental factor of this equation far exceeds the genetics in the individuals determination of their sexuality. That isn’t saying they’re faking it. What it is saying is that the exact same person, in a whole different scenario growing up, would probability wise not conclude they were gay.

fallenturtle:
Your point?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Same one…look up ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I thought that was in relation to their sexuality, not their gender… but okay. What’s the deal with the 10%? If thats genetic, then do they still deserve to be ostracized?
Smyrna
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No child should be ostracized but the adults are another question but it’s on a case by case basis.
Jezcoe
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Well there goes showing this movie.

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DougBH
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DMK:

DougBH:
Just curious. How many people here actually personally saw a boy who was repeatedly harassed for showing eliminate traits, while they were in school? I’m not talking about reading about it in some political article, but actually saw it.
If yes, then what if anything did you do about it?
When I was in high school in the 80’s we had a big black dude built like a bull come into school in a hot pink dress and heels. Everyone was shocked. The assistant principal, who was no wimp, tried to get him to get him to the office and got the beat down of his lifetime. I was right there to see all of it. Police were called and the guy was removed from the premises.
I remember being shocked and feeling ever so sorry for the guy. Until he whaled on the vice principal.
To me, that sounds more like enforcement of a dress code than punishment for a male having female mannerisms.
zantax
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fallenturtle:

DMK:
Let’s just be honest. It’s trendy. Kids like trends.
Stupid parents will risk their children’s health so they can be trendy, too.
As far as sexual orientation is concerned, I don’t think it matters as long as we teach our kids to practice safe sex and what not. As for being transgender I am started to think there are a lot more people getting into it because its trendy, at least based on what I’m seeing with my daughter’s classmates… but I also strongly believe there are legit transgender people and that if someone is legit transgender transition before natal puberty starts doing its thing can be extremely valuable in relation to their mental health outcomes as an adult.
I feel for any parent who is put in the position having a transgender child as I know it would be really scary worrying that you are doing the right or wrong thing.
Smart parents will be sure to send their questioning child to multiple doctors to get different opinions.
Umm no, I would not and have not ever taught kids to have any sort of sex period. That’s twisted. I taught them how adults had safer, not safe, sex. And that the smarter ones practiced monogamy.

zantax:

fallenturtle:

DMK:
Let’s just be honest. It’s trendy. Kids like trends.
Stupid parents will risk their children’s health so they can be trendy, too.
As far as sexual orientation is concerned, I don’t think it matters as long as we teach our kids to practice safe sex and what not. As for being transgender I am started to think there are a lot more people getting into it because its trendy, at least based on what I’m seeing with my daughter’s classmates… but I also strongly believe there are legit transgender people and that if someone is legit transgender transition before natal puberty starts doing its thing can be extremely valuable in relation to their mental health outcomes as an adult.
I feel for any parent who is put in the position having a transgender child as I know it would be really scary worrying that you are doing the right or wrong thing.
Smart parents will be sure to send their questioning child to multiple doctors to get different opinions.
Umm no, I would not and have not ever taught kids to have any sort of sex period. That’s twisted. I taught them how adults had safer, not safe, sex. And that the smarter ones practiced monogamy.
Not teaching age appropriate sex-ed is twisted. If your tribe is going to get rid of abortion, the least you can do is support teaching sex ed to youth so that those who do decide to have sex do so using protection.
zantax
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If someones kids are too stupid to understand that adult safe practices would also work for them if they were to break my prohibition on no sex for children, that would be their problem, not mine. My message was clear and consistent, sex is not for children. And that is the message they should be getting from every responsible adult.
zantax
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This is why you never allow your children to visit liberal homes without supervision, they think it’s ok and normal for children to have sex. They will allow it to happen under their roofs.
DMK
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Actually, it probably was now that I think about it. He looked like a street walker. Definitely not appropriate for school.

zantax:
If someones kids are too stupid to understand that adult safe practices would also work for them if they were to break my prohibition on no sex for children, that would be their problem, not mine. My message was clear and consistent, sex is not for children. And that is the message they should be getting from every responsible adult.
How are they supposed to know about “adult safe practices” if they are never told? The stupid person in this equation is the one opposed to educating youth are are old enough to have sex how to do so safely.
Call me a crazy, but I think the goal should be less teen moms, not more.
DMK
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Kids are making decisions now? What the hell happened to parenting?
“Oh honey, if you want to cross the busy street let me tell you about the dangers”. “Now here you go!”
zantax
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fallenturtle:

zantax:
If someones kids are too stupid to understand that adult safe practices would also work for them if they were to break my prohibition on no sex for children, that would be their problem, not mine. My message was clear and consistent, sex is not for children. And that is the message they should be getting from every responsible adult.
How are they supposed to know about “adult safe practices” if they are never told? The stupid person in this equation is the one opposed to educating youth are are old enough to have sex how to do so safely.
Call me a crazy, but I think the goal should be less teen moms, not more.
We started this discussion with me saying I taught my children what adult safe sex practices were. So that’s how. Neither of which got pregnant as a teen.
Kids have always been making decisions. As parents our job is to help them make the right ones.
If a kid can’t cross the street without a parent there to guide them by the time they are 18, they have bigger problems.
How is that different of age-appropriate sex-ed?