MichaelScarn:
First, drop the condescending attitude. Second. This is what you said that I responded to. What is a Kleinfelter male, chromosomally speaking? What is XXY? What if the SRY is translocated and you have an XX male? What about an XXX female?
Biological sex is fairly rigid but there are exceptions. In the event of these exceptions, you often find altered brain chemistry. In the case of transgender individuals, or homosexual individuals, differences in brain chemistry can be and/or are observed. From this vantage point, it’s a lot easier to understand how gender is closer to a spectrum than the concept of biological sex.
Excellent job Michael. When we show evidence, he dismisses the evidence and starts attacking. Clearly he does not believe in science or potential for some in the population to be structured differently than the so-called norm.
8th grade science or whenever they teach you, NEVER said there are only two sexes or two genders. They do teach you in general terms: boys have penises, girls have vaginas, people have 10 fingers and 10 toes, and 2 arms/legs. But they never said these are the ONLY options, at least the schooling I had.
It also should be noted that K-12 teaches GENERAL information. If you took biology or neuroscience, perhaps they would go into more details about the exceptions.
thinkingman:
All the pervert/rapist etc has to do is pretend to identify with the female gender. Then viola, legal access to the ladies room. This is not the transgender person, or someone with opposite gender secondary sex characteristics. this is the ■■■■■■■ who wants to take pics of little girls peeing over the stall wall.
It really doesn’t have anything to do with the mental illness of transgenderism, other than the loony laws that leftists want to make themselves feel better about allowing anyone to use any bathroom they want.
Come on man, you’re being ridiculous.
None of our professional medical and psychological societies call transgederism a mental illness. None of them.
No person is going to come out to their family, friends, take hormones, or forge a cat scan, just so they can prey on little girls in a bathroom.
What do you mean by “legal access”? There’s no law where men have to use the men’s room or women have to use the women’s room. We don’t see single Dads getting arrested or fined for taking their daughter into the men’s room or women’s room. We don’t see pregnant women or people with IBS getting arrested/fined for using the “wrong bathroom”.
Voyeurism is a crime. You should be punished for it. Releasing your waste into toilets or washing your hands is not.
People with alternative brain structures, should never be forced to use bathrooms or locker rooms or change rooms, they are uncomfortable in.
I am unclear about these “loony laws” by “leftists” you’re referring to. We are seeing states - I believe there about 18 of them – which added civil rights protections based on sexual orientation and gender. These protections are designed to prevent discrimination in the work place and obtaining public goods and services. It’s the “loony right” which made it all about bathrooms and used these as an excuse to treat the LGBTQ citizens as unequal Americans.
You guys on the “loony right” seem to obsessed with about 0.6% of adult Americans and less than 1 million students.
Why the fuss over less than 1% of Americans?
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mobulis:
thinkingman:
All the pervert/rapist etc has to do is pretend to identify with the female gender. Then viola, legal access to the ladies room. This is not the transgender person, or someone with opposite gender secondary sex characteristics. this is the ■■■■■■■ who wants to take pics of little girls peeing over the stall wall.
It really doesn’t have anything to do with the mental illness of transgenderism, other than the loony laws that leftists want to make themselves feel better about allowing anyone to use any bathroom they want.
Sorry but nope.
thanks! glad you are seeing the insanity of such laws were they to be on the books
Calvin_Reagan:
thinkingman:
All the pervert/rapist etc has to do is pretend to identify with the female gender. Then viola, legal access to the ladies room. This is not the transgender person, or someone with opposite gender secondary sex characteristics. this is the ■■■■■■■ who wants to take pics of little girls peeing over the stall wall.
It really doesn’t have anything to do with the mental illness of transgenderism, other than the loony laws that leftists want to make themselves feel better about allowing anyone to use any bathroom they want.
Come on man, you’re being ridiculous.
None of our professional medical and psychological societies call transgederism a mental illness. None of them.
No person is going to come out to their family, friends, take hormones, or forge a cat scan, just so they can prey on little girls in a bathroom.
What do you mean by “legal access”? There’s no law where men have to use the men’s room or women have to use the women’s room. We don’t see single Dads getting arrested or fined for taking their daughter into the men’s room or women’s room. We don’t see pregnant women or people with IBS getting arrested/fined for using the “wrong bathroom”.
Voyeurism is a crime. You should be punished for it. Releasing your waste into toilets or washing your hands is not.
People with alternative brain structures, should never be forced to use bathrooms or locker rooms or change rooms, they are uncomfortable in.
I am unclear about these “loony laws” by “leftists” you’re referring to. We are seeing states - I believe there about 18 of them – which added civil rights protections based on sexual orientation and gender. These protections are designed to prevent discrimination in the work place and obtaining public goods and services. It’s the “loony right” which made it all about bathrooms and used these as an excuse to treat the LGBTQ citizens as unequal Americans.
You guys on the “loony right” seem to obsessed with about 0.6% of adult Americans and less than 1 million students.
Why the fuss over less than 1% of Americans?
i love this “alternative brain structures” as the determination of gender now vs chromosomes and genitals.
the “loony right” is obsessed with it because they dont want perverts getting legal access to the ladies room. call us old fashioned
mobulis
November 6, 2018, 12:33pm
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So you finally admit that there are no such laws.
mobulis
November 6, 2018, 12:34pm
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thinkingman:
Calvin_Reagan:
thinkingman:
All the pervert/rapist etc has to do is pretend to identify with the female gender. Then viola, legal access to the ladies room. This is not the transgender person, or someone with opposite gender secondary sex characteristics. this is the ■■■■■■■ who wants to take pics of little girls peeing over the stall wall.
It really doesn’t have anything to do with the mental illness of transgenderism, other than the loony laws that leftists want to make themselves feel better about allowing anyone to use any bathroom they want.
Come on man, you’re being ridiculous.
None of our professional medical and psychological societies call transgederism a mental illness. None of them.
No person is going to come out to their family, friends, take hormones, or forge a cat scan, just so they can prey on little girls in a bathroom.
What do you mean by “legal access”? There’s no law where men have to use the men’s room or women have to use the women’s room. We don’t see single Dads getting arrested or fined for taking their daughter into the men’s room or women’s room. We don’t see pregnant women or people with IBS getting arrested/fined for using the “wrong bathroom”.
Voyeurism is a crime. You should be punished for it. Releasing your waste into toilets or washing your hands is not.
People with alternative brain structures, should never be forced to use bathrooms or locker rooms or change rooms, they are uncomfortable in.
I am unclear about these “loony laws” by “leftists” you’re referring to. We are seeing states - I believe there about 18 of them – which added civil rights protections based on sexual orientation and gender. These protections are designed to prevent discrimination in the work place and obtaining public goods and services. It’s the “loony right” which made it all about bathrooms and used these as an excuse to treat the LGBTQ citizens as unequal Americans.
You guys on the “loony right” seem to obsessed with about 0.6% of adult Americans and less than 1 million students.
Why the fuss over less than 1% of Americans?
i love this “alternative brain structures” as the determination of gender now vs chromosomes and genitals.
the “loony right” is obsessed with it because they dont want perverts getting legal access to the ladies room. call us old fashioned
So you don’t understand that brain structures are determined by chromosomes. Got it.
It’s called science, and the things we discover every day are fascinating.
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Science has a well known liberal bias.
tnt
November 6, 2018, 1:04pm
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thinkingman:
Now don’t get triggered. That wasn’t meant as pejorative.
It is my belief that it is a mental illness and should be treated as such, for the benefit of the patient.
Maybe the transgender suicide rate wouldn’t be so high.
Sinking low would be bringing up the massacre of little kids as though that is somehow relevant in the discussion. In that respect, yes, the forum does hit new lows.
The reason transgender suicide rates are so high is because society is filled with people like you who hold the idiotic view that they suffer from mental illness, or are otherwise not whole, real, people.
You should leave your beliefs out of it when dealing with issues like this.
tnt
November 6, 2018, 1:09pm
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thinkingman:
i love this “alternative brain structures” as the determination of gender now vs chromosomes and genitals.
the “loony right” is obsessed with it because they dont want perverts getting legal access to the ladies room. call us old fashioned
Hey genius, what is stopping TODAY a pervert from dressing as a woman to go loiter in the ladies room?
if you wanted me to admit that all you had to do was say so. but there were. and people want them
hence, my position of sanity
he would likely be discovered and chased out
it doesnt take a genius to realize that
tnt:
thinkingman:
Now don’t get triggered. That wasn’t meant as pejorative.
It is my belief that it is a mental illness and should be treated as such, for the benefit of the patient.
Maybe the transgender suicide rate wouldn’t be so high.
Sinking low would be bringing up the massacre of little kids as though that is somehow relevant in the discussion. In that respect, yes, the forum does hit new lows.
The reason transgender suicide rates are so high is because society is filled with people like you who hold the idiotic view that they suffer from mental illness, or are otherwise not whole, real, people.
You should leave your beliefs out of it when dealing with issues like this.
sorry. you have no data to support that.
talk about “beliefs”
no thats called leftist tansgenderism agenda
please learn to tell the difference
for the sake of those who need mental health support.
tnt
November 6, 2018, 1:59pm
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You shouldn’t talk about things you know nothing of.
Smyrna
November 6, 2018, 2:05pm
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I hate hate. I also don’t want the beliefs of others being shoved down the throats of innocent children. There’s a movement going on to indoctrinate children into a belief system that I disagree with. I also believe that it isn’t a subject that should be discussed with children below the age of 16 and without the parents’ consent. My gosh people…children can’t even do basic math calculations and there’s a movement to teach them about sexual orientation. What the hell is going on in our public schools?
mobulis
November 6, 2018, 2:05pm
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thinkingman:
if you wanted me to admit that all you had to do was say so. but there were. and people want them
hence, my position of sanity
There weren’t and nobody wants them.
i only go by the data and what we learned in 8th grade science.
well, what i learned, anyway
Science has no political affiliation. If you’re interested, I can provide you with interesting literature
Everyone would benefit from mental health support.
Did you type this with a straight face?