You don’t believe in polls. Lol. It’s okay.
Do you really believe trump is ahead right now?
Allan
I believe my own eyes and ears, not the evidence less words of partisan propagandists.
Polls are facts. They are not subjective.
Facts you do not like for sure.
But nonetheless facts.
Allan
Just a couple of polls (post debate pre covid)
Good news for biden
Pennsylvania +7
Good news for no one
Ohio Even
Allan
He who doesn’t believe in polls in 2020 and think trump is in front is in for a rude awakening
On election night and beyond
Allan
WCD9973
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This is the amazing part.
Every poll not only shows the same thing -But shows conistency.
Biden is going to win. He going to win in a landslide. It will not take weeks -May not even take days. There will be too many states that go to Biden in clear margins that it will be over.
And Trumpers will all say its totall rigged because “There is NO WAY it could be like this” they will say things like “I could belive small BIden Victory” or “These margins are impossibile unless they cheated” and will all say there is no evidence while ignoring all the polls that have been showing this will be a Biden Landslide.
I would agree with you IF the election were today. But we still have 28 days to go before I would make that prediction.
Chris
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Out of those six states that Biden is ahead in the polls, I still think that Trump has a pretty good chance of winning two of those states, which is Ohio and Florida. Four years ago, Arizona was a light red State, but now Arizona is a light blue state. Democrat Sinema won her Senate race two years ago in Arizona, and Biden is likely going to win Arizona this year. Biden is also likely going to win Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.
STODR
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I disagree, I think Biden will win but it will be closer then the polls show. I will bet you that as soon as it becomes obvious the stock market will tank. Believing Biden is gonna shut down the economy and mandate masks.
WCD9973
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If every states poll was adjusted 4 points in favor of Trump - EVERY SIGNLE ONE - Using the updated polling avgs (Again -Given 4 extra points to trump in EVERY POLL) Biden still wins.
Because of 2016 (Where many polls were off, but all by less then 4%) we refuse to beleive what is right in front of us.
Biden is going to win in a landslide.
Safiel
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As I have repeatedly explained.
There were significant sampling errors in the 2016 polling. Educated whites were oversampled and uneducated whites were undersampled, which accounted for the 2016 polling errors.
Sampling has been corrected and I believe in 2020 the polls will be far closer to the actual outcome.
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Just like I was in 2016? Yeah, right.
I guess they are trying to sample according to expected ballots. They may be oversampling illegals and felons this time… And dead people. And maybe, to get a realistic representation of the mail in ballots, giving Democrat supporters three votes each.
One difference. Look at the polls - Clinton 46.8% Trump 40.3% - That’s 87.1%. There was 12.9% that were undecided.
Now look at 2020 - Biden - 49.8% Trump - 44.3% - That’s 94.1%. There’s 5.9% undecided. Big difference.
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WCD9973
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What did you think in 2012? What did you think in 2018?
JimmyC
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New NYT/Siena poll of Arizona
Biden - 49%
Trump - 41%
AZ Senate
Kelly (D) - 50%
McSally (R-inc) - 39%
Mr. Biden leads Mr. Trump 49 percent to 41 percent in Arizona, with just 6 percent of likely voters saying they were undecided, according to the survey, which was taken before and after the president announced that he had tested positive for the virus that causes Covid-19 but after his caustic debate performance last week. The poll has a margin of error of 4.2 percentage points.
Safiel
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Trump’s debate performance cost him dearly. Undecided voters were put off by his tone.
And his Covid episode has also damaged him, by breaking the veneer of invincibility he tries to project.
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the only way trump wins is if he cheats.
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