Today on Capitol Hill

[JayJay]

@Piper

The DC Swamp got a little taste of what Josh Hawley’s family and others have been exposed to from antifa for months.

Law enforcement deliberately stood back while antifa led the charge against the Capitol Building.

You realize well known far right bloggers live streamed from inside the Capitol, don’t you?

And I know some people that were in on the storming of the Capitol…I suppose these were all fooled by Antifa infiltrators.

[tnt]

@JayJay

You are right Trumpism was a response to something deeper than voter fraud.

But yesterday was all about sore loserism and the inability to grasp that Trumpism as a response to the deeper ills this country has was rejected as a way forward.

Sadly, the people that embrace Trumpism are going to learn the bitter lesson many of those who came before them had to learn…demagoguery and shared hatred never result in a better life…it always ends badly.

This isn’t dismissing the issues that gave rise to Trumpism…this is pointing out that those people that grasped Trumpism and held onto it grasped the one thing that will destroy them quicker than anything else.

But they’ll have to be burned before they realize this, and sadly…there will be a lot of collateral damage

This is a good post.

I would add that it i unfortuante that Trump became the leader of this movement, though of course, he was just the right person at the right time…but had it been someone else, things could have been so different. Dare I suggest, even good?

The underpinings of Trump’s ‘ideology’, such as it is, aren’t bad. They are remarkably similar to the populist movements of Sanders and others…but Trump is just a selfish narsicist.

Strange days…

[toreyj01]

@WuWei

@toreyj01

@WuWei

@toreyj01

@moonshine

every rioter that can be id’d should face felony charges

If you break the law, you should be punished. Used to be fairly common sense thing to think, not so much in these last few days.

What if the law is unjust?

Protest peacefully, get your voice heard, call congressmen, there are avenues to getting change without breaking the law.

They have, for decades. Nobody listened.

Change is incremental, it is a lesson I wish the Right learned from the Left. The Right seems too impatient to make lasting differences in policy, they want it all now, very unrealistic.

The Left plugs away, chips away, to get to a place they eventually want to arrive at.

Like Healthcare. The ACA isn’t a Leftist plot, it was first espoused by the Right, the Heritage Foundation in fact, as a response and alternative to “Hillarycare”. And it happens to be the last truly innovative approach the GOP ever made regarding national healthcare.

But to the Dems, it was a step in the right direction. We weren’t going to get Nationalized healthcare, we knew we didn’t have the votes in our own caucus for that. We didn’t even have the votes for a public option.

But now? We do have the votes for a public option, and that is a good thing.

It took ten years to get here, but change doesn’t happen overnight. Not any tangible and long lasting change.

[tnt]

@conan

That Trump is symptom of a problem that started long before him.

While you are making it about Trump you’re ignoring it.

I totally agree with that.

And I’m anxious to solve the real problems that created this crazy movement.

But Trump ain’t! And that is NOT what yesterday was about. Yesterday was about Trump lying to his radically devout followers about the election and whipping them up into a frenzy.

That has nothing to do witht eh real and deep problems millions of americans face that need national, unified attention and soloutions.

[WuWei]

I will agree the dems are good at incrementalism and taking advantages of crises.

[toreyj01]

@tnt

@toreyj01

Yup. Am actually getting my second shot next week and then I am going to really ramp up my efforts. Work weekends, work at pharmacies, anywhere that will let me stick arms.

I feel a calling, I want to vaccinate a thousand people.

You da man Torey. If you set up a go fund me or PM me your Venmo I’ll buy you a pizza and six pack to help you get through the weekends.

Seriously.

Thanks, mate. I had to go Keto to knock off my COVID gains, but pizza and beer is in the cards when I hit #1000.

[GWH]

@Piper

The DC Swamp got a little taste of what Josh Hawley’s family and others have been exposed to from antifa for months.

Law enforcement deliberately stood back while antifa led the charge against the Capitol Building.

From the looks of things, they didn’t have a choice. They were greatly outnumbered. They stood back to prevent violence.

[WuWei]

@tnt

national, unified attention and soloutions

Good Lord. Again. “National solutions” is the cause.

[WuWei]

@tnt

And that is NOT what yesterday was about.

How do you know?

[PeterGriffin]

List of figures from left to right: Nikki Haley, James Mattis, Ben Carson, President Trump, Jeff Sessions, Mike Pence, Melania Trump, Mike Pompeo, Sarah Sanders, Ivanka Trump, John Bolton, Kellyanne Conway, John Kelly

They don’t show the follow up painting to this, which is that one by one everyone else in the boat is thrown over the side, except for Ben Carson who is missed because he’s asleep. As the boat makes shore with only Donald Trump left in it, he is greeted on the other side by US Marshals where he is apprehended and taken into custody.

[conan]

I can’t help you. Sorry but until you can get past Trump!!! I’m done trying to explain it.

[toreyj01]

@WuWei

I will agree the dems are good at incrementalism and taking advantages of crises.

Well, I don’t think the GOP could have passed the PATRIOT act without a bit of crisis, nor get us into 2 protracted wars. But they need to learn about chipping away at a problem.

Take abortion, that is a BIG ONE with the GOP. Fine. They can pass all sorts of nonsense statewide trying to close abortion clinics with unreasonable regulations that get tossed every time it goes to court or they could actually give a damn about lowering the numbers of abortions in this country.

Stop messing with providing sex ed is a big one, it lowers abortion rates and that is a good thing.

Stop messing with birth control is another, it lowers abortion as well.

How about trying to reform adoptions so it is quick, inexpensive and efficient?

How about making sure the expectant mother can afford carrying the child to term, with decent healthcare during the entire pregnancy?

How about providing childcare alternatives so that single Moms can work and afford to be a parent? And how about raising the minimum wage so that they can provide a living wage for a family without the need to go on assistance?

You guys do all that and you will knock abortions down. And make lives better for the children who are actually born.

Increments work.

[conan]

Yes…last night couple of congress critters almost ended up in fistacuffs.

[SixFoot]

I’d pay good money to see that kind of a cat fight. lol

[conan]

That is what your media is telling you.

[conan]

Your attempt to bait me isn’t smart.

[bigtwnvin]

Think their death certificates will be written as “Covid related” as cause?

[conan]

Sorry…it wasn’t. Still buying into left-wing propaganda/diversion.

[conan]

Were done here.

[johnwk2]

@Snowfinch

@johnwk2

Why do you give our Supreme Court a pass in neglecting to fulfil its duty in providing a constitutional protection and a lawful way for a redress of such grievances?

This would not be the first or last time a court has erred or failed to act. The constitution does not impart the power of lawlessness to citizenry in these circumstances.

I have neither the power nor requirement to issue “passes” to the Supreme Court.

And to be honest, I don’t think the court did err here. But I have felt they erred at other times and I did not grant myself the power of lawlessness.

You say you don’t give the Supreme Court a pass, but your response’s indicate the Supreme Court did not neglect to hear a case, review the evidence and then issue a ruling in a case in which the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction.

As to lawlessness, I view the Court’s neglect to fulfil its duty and adjudicate a redress of such grievances, borders on malfeasance, misfeasance and nonfeasance ? Had the Supreme Court done its job, I suspect the tragedy on Capitol Hill would never have occurred.

But hey, you can once again deflect and condemn the protestors illegal actions, which is a clever way to dismiss the Court’s failure to provide a protection which our Constitution offers as a remedy.

JWK

“If the Constitution was ratified under the belief, sedulously propagated on all sides that such protection was afforded, would it not now be a fraud upon the whole people to give a different construction to its powers?”___ Justice Story