Today In History: Environmental Predictions made for 1970 Earth Day

Gaius · 2018-04-22T16:54:33.946Z

7ranz:

I predict nothing will be done in this country to address Climate Change and the younger generations will have to deal with the consequences of that inaction.

You might be right on both counts.

The last time I undertook a serious inquiry of global warming was circa 2001, before the Hadley CRU got caught hand picking its oeer reviewers and stacking the deck of articles for the IPCC to review.

At that time the IPCC was predicting oceans will rise 15 inches in a hundred years, (must be 8or 90 years from TODAY), and self-styled “environmentalists” were ‘exaggerating’ those into an end to the earth and the Statue of Liberty up to her waste in seawater and such nonsense.
Inevitably those “environmentalusrs” seemed to have started their political ideas with views on racism or corporations etc. and simply decided eco-alarmism fut into their preconceived worldview.

I worked with a tiny but locally student radio show and had NO TROUBLE finding guests for the show who were college professors, basically experts to come on the program and say in effect “AGW is true but what these nut jobs are saying about it is politically-motivated hooey.”

I assume if I were still working in radio it would be just as easy to do it today,

gooddad409 · 2018-04-22T16:55:02.478Z

acsirip:

gooddad409:

acsirip:

gooddad409:

I predict nothing much is going to change environmentally over the next hundred years. That is if we even have 100 years before God decides it is time for the second coming.

what is the value of your prediction? do you work/study in the environment field?

It’s an opinion. Just like yours or anybody else’s. The so called experts from 1970 did a real bang up job of predicting eh?

As the scriptures say the way you know someone is a false prophet is when their prophesies don’t come true.

not all opinions have the same value.

the nitpicked predictions above have not come true also because changes were made to prevent them.

the funny (sad) thing is that today you have places in this planet were you need a mask when going outside, millions die annually due to pollution, millions don’t have drinking water, plants and animals are being extinct at an alarming rate, and so on.

all of it showing that more work needs to be done to address the issues.

Where are millions dying from pollution? It isn’t happening.

p,s, the reason those 1970 predictions didn’t come true is because they were kooky predictions.

acsirip · 2018-04-22T16:58:39.806Z

gooddad409:

acsirip:

gooddad409:

acsirip:

gooddad409:

I predict nothing much is going to change environmentally over the next hundred years. That is if we even have 100 years before God decides it is time for the second coming.

what is the value of your prediction? do you work/study in the environment field?

It’s an opinion. Just like yours or anybody else’s. The so called experts from 1970 did a real bang up job of predicting eh?

As the scriptures say the way you know someone is a false prophet is when their prophesies don’t come true.

not all opinions have the same value.

the nitpicked predictions above have not come true also because changes were made to prevent them.

the funny (sad) thing is that today you have places in this planet were you need a mask when going outside, millions die annually due to pollution, millions don’t have drinking water, plants and animals are being extinct at an alarming rate, and so on.

all of it showing that more work needs to be done to address the issues.

Where are millions dying from pollution? It isn’t happening.

p,s, the reason those 1970 predictions didn’t come true is because they were kooky predictions.

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Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-04-22T17:04:44.436Z

I predict Al Gore’s net worth of 300 million will increase to at least 400 million before he passes away. Not bad for a failed candidate.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-04-22T17:07:12.800Z

acsirip:

the nitpicked predictions above have not come true also because changes were made to prevent them.

after Y2K a ton of people said it was a hoax. it pissed me off for one specific reason.

i had tasked staff to take decommissioned equipment (we sell expensive stuff) and bring them up to date (just like a lot of the stuff still in the field) and test them with future dates. they found major issues and reported back to me. we addressed those issues, came up with solutions and by the time the clocked ticked to the problem “second”, we had already addressed everything. worked our asses off and idiots (who had no idea of the actual details) were saying it was all a conspiracy (not unlike what Alex Jones does these days).

gooddad409 · 2018-04-22T17:09:19.842Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

I predict Al Gore’s net worth of 300 million will increase to at least 400 million before he passes away. Not bad for a failed candidate.

Failed candidate with failed global warming ideas.

acsirip · 2018-04-22T17:09:25.529Z

CaughtInTheMiddle:

acsirip:

the nitpicked predictions above have not come true also because changes were made to prevent them.

after Y2K a ton of people said it was a hoax. it pissed me off for one specific reason.

i had tasked staff to take decommissioned equipment (we sell expensive stuff) and bring them up to date (just like a lot of the stuff still in the field) and test them with future dates. they found major issues and reported back to me. we addressed those issues, came up with solutions and by the time the clocked ticked to the problem “second”, we had already addressed everything. worked our asses off and idiots (who had no idea of the actual details) were saying it was all a conspiracy (not unlike what Alex Jones does these days).

people can be dumb. its a fact of life.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-04-22T17:17:05.799Z

CaughtInTheMiddle:

acsirip:

the nitpicked predictions above have not come true also because changes were made to prevent them.

after Y2K a ton of people said it was a hoax. it pissed me off for one specific reason.

i had tasked staff to take decommissioned equipment (we sell expensive stuff) and bring them up to date (just like a lot of the stuff still in the field) and test them with future dates. they found major issues and reported back to me. we addressed those issues, came up with solutions and by the time the clocked ticked to the problem “second”, we had already addressed everything. worked our asses off and idiots (who had no idea of the actual details) were saying it was all a conspiracy (not unlike what Alex Jones does these days).

my God… we have you to thank for saving life as we know it.

the conspiracy was actually by the people who covered up all the hellish disasters from people who in 1996 set their computer clocks to December 31, 1999 11:59 PM just to watch what happened. We now know that none survived… killed or maimed when their computers exploded. DAMN those who hide such facts.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-04-22T17:20:06.776Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

CaughtInTheMiddle:

acsirip:

the nitpicked predictions above have not come true also because changes were made to prevent them.

after Y2K a ton of people said it was a hoax. it pissed me off for one specific reason.

i had tasked staff to take decommissioned equipment (we sell expensive stuff) and bring them up to date (just like a lot of the stuff still in the field) and test them with future dates. they found major issues and reported back to me. we addressed those issues, came up with solutions and by the time the clocked ticked to the problem “second”, we had already addressed everything. worked our asses off and idiots (who had no idea of the actual details) were saying it was all a conspiracy (not unlike what Alex Jones does these days).

my God… we have you to thank for saving life as we know it.

That’s a really dumb reply. And you missed the point.

Twofer.

acsirip · 2018-04-22T17:30:04.551Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

CaughtInTheMiddle:

acsirip:

the nitpicked predictions above have not come true also because changes were made to prevent them.

after Y2K a ton of people said it was a hoax. it pissed me off for one specific reason.

i had tasked staff to take decommissioned equipment (we sell expensive stuff) and bring them up to date (just like a lot of the stuff still in the field) and test them with future dates. they found major issues and reported back to me. we addressed those issues, came up with solutions and by the time the clocked ticked to the problem “second”, we had already addressed everything. worked our asses off and idiots (who had no idea of the actual details) were saying it was all a conspiracy (not unlike what Alex Jones does these days).

my God… we have you to thank for saving life as we know it.

the conspiracy was actually by the people who covered up all the hellish disasters from people who in 1996 set their computer clocks to December 31, 1999 11:59 PM just to watch what happened. We now know that none survived… killed or maimed when their computers exploded. DAMN those who hide such facts.

what? lol

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Gaius · 2018-04-22T17:37:17.040Z

Noting my earlier post in this thread.

Here’s the kind of thing I found EASY to do. Looks like it would still be easy.

Below are

A screen capture from the most recent IPCC report on sea level change predictions. (It’s titled “IPCC Fifth Assessment Report, WGI Chapter 13: Sea Level change (2014)” if you wanna google it.), and
a screen capture I get on my phone when I do a GoogleNews search for “sea level rise predictions.”

The ACTUAL IPCC report reads in part “For the period 2081–2100, compared to
1986–2005, global mean sea level rise is likely … range of projections from process-based models, which give 0.26 to 0.55 m”

IOW by the year 2100 global sea levels will likely rise “0.26 to 0.55 m” or 8 to 18 inches, and THAT is almost a hundred years from now.

But the media reportage, is mostly scary scenarios. Presumably the MSM is balanced so I guess the articles balance between people to the left of science and people far far far to the left of science.

Some things never change.

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Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-04-22T17:37:37.390Z

It likely did not involve you. Apparently, others here were watching and protecting us.

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BlueTex · 2018-04-22T17:41:21.169Z

Thank goodness congress took these predictions seriously and enacted the Clean Air Act of 1970 and established the EPA in the same year. Thanks for reminding us of the responsible policies and politicians.

Gaius · 2018-04-22T17:50:17.342Z

BlueTex:

Thank goodness congress took these predictions seriously and enacted the Clean Air Act of 1970 and established the EPA in the same year. Thanks for reminding us of the responsible policies and politicians.

What? No credit to President Nixon?

Gas masks would have been necessary? All the fish in surface water would have died? Overpopulation and mass starvation?

Thank God the fish are still alive in Pakistan. Way to go US Congress! Way to go President Nixon! Way to go God.

You saved us!

gooddad409 · 2018-04-22T17:57:07.151Z

acsirip:

CaughtInTheMiddle:

acsirip:

the nitpicked predictions above have not come true also because changes were made to prevent them.

after Y2K a ton of people said it was a hoax. it pissed me off for one specific reason.

i had tasked staff to take decommissioned equipment (we sell expensive stuff) and bring them up to date (just like a lot of the stuff still in the field) and test them with future dates. they found major issues and reported back to me. we addressed those issues, came up with solutions and by the time the clocked ticked to the problem “second”, we had already addressed everything. worked our asses off and idiots (who had no idea of the actual details) were saying it was all a conspiracy (not unlike what Alex Jones does these days).

people can be dumb. its a fact of life.

True. Al Gore and the 1970 forecasters come to mind.

acsirip · 2018-04-22T17:58:49.644Z

gooddad409:

True. Al Gore and the 1970 forecasters come to mind.

at least you learned today that millions still die annually from pollution.

Gaius · 2018-04-22T18:05:30.501Z

acsirip:

at least you learned today that millions still die annually from pollution.

And that Congress, during whomever’s presidency, saved India from starvation and protected the fish everywhere in the world.

Yay President Whomever and his party!

gooddad409 · 2018-04-22T18:13:08.692Z

acsirip:

gooddad409:

True. Al Gore and the 1970 forecasters come to mind.

at least you learned today that millions still die annually from pollution.

When did that happen?

acsirip · 2018-04-22T18:19:33.827Z

gooddad409:

acsirip:

gooddad409:

True. Al Gore and the 1970 forecasters come to mind.

at least you learned today that millions still die annually from pollution.

When did that happen?

i linked above. heres another link if the FT link is not working for you.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/10/19/pollution-kills-9-million-people-each-year-new-study-finds/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b476da96f20c

Tilly_jow · 2018-04-22T18:28:16.894Z

This is a thread it seems that the oil industry pays its stooges to start in all new political sites. IMHO.