Time to consider socialism with the failure of capitalism greed

[Smyrna]

@Eagle-Keeper

This is essentially the message of liberalism, to blame others for the poor choices that you have made in life.

Yep and…keep your sound advice…to yourself. It’s hate speech.

[LucyLou]

Since Misty has received the 3020 treatment as a retread, it’s safe to say her so-called story is ■■■■■■■■■

[Toll_Collector]

@NJBob

Sometimes you need to be where the jobs are.

The cost of living in NJ is probably as high or higher than most of CA, except we have cheaper gas.

Regardless. Job availability is scarce. In NJ you can probably land a job paying 15-16 bucks an hour. But you can’t live on that by yourself. You need someone else making the same just to get by. I did that back in the early 90s and we lived a relatively good middle class life. This isn’t the early 90s. I don’t know how people do it today.

[FloridaYankee]

@Smyrna

@FloridaYankee

You are entitled to it. It’s accurate.

you’re not
en·ti·tle·ment
the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment

Fun game!

NOUN

1. the fact of having a right to something.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@conan

If goverment didn’t back up those loans bankers wouldn’t be making em…high risk.

Make the school pay the loan if the person doesn’t get a good paying job. That would dramatically change the system.

[ImRightYoureWrong]

@Eagle-Keeper

This is essentially the message of liberalism, to blame others for the poor choices that you have made in life.

No it isn’t

[Smyrna]

@FloridaYankee

Fun game!

NOUN

1. the fact of having a right to something.

…and there ya go. It isn’t a right, it’s a debt.

[FloridaYankee]

@Smyrna

@FloridaYankee

Fun game!

NOUN

1. the fact of having a right to something.

…and there ya go. It isn’t a right, it’s a debt.

You paid into it for decades, of course you are entitled to it.

[gooddad409]

@Eagle-Keeper

@conan

If goverment didn’t back up those loans bankers wouldn’t be making em…high risk.

Make the school pay the loan if the person doesn’t get a good paying job. That would dramatically change the system.

Bet the schools would eliminate certain degrees if that were the case.

[NJBob]

@zantax

@NJBob

@gooddad409

@NJBob

@Toll_Collector

@gooddad409

Moving to a cheaper state would help a lot.

I live in NJ, rent can get expensive here too. But rarely do you have to move out of state, just out of the expensive area.

Just don’t buy a house in NJ, property taxes are outrageous throughout the state.

I wouldn’t live in NJ or California even if the house were free.

The OP appears to be from California however and it doesn’t get much higher as far as all around living costs and taxes.

Sometimes you need to be where the jobs are.

The cost of living in NJ is probably as high or higher than most of CA, except we have cheaper gas.

Don’t know about that, plugged two random cities, one in NJ the other in CA into a COL calculator and it says California is almost 18% more expensive.

What does your COL calculator include?

I spend well over $500 a month just to commute to work.

[NJBob]

@NJBob

@zantax

@NJBob

@gooddad409

@NJBob

@Toll_Collector

@gooddad409

Moving to a cheaper state would help a lot.

I live in NJ, rent can get expensive here too. But rarely do you have to move out of state, just out of the expensive area.

Just don’t buy a house in NJ, property taxes are outrageous throughout the state.

I wouldn’t live in NJ or California even if the house were free.

The OP appears to be from California however and it doesn’t get much higher as far as all around living costs and taxes.

Sometimes you need to be where the jobs are.

The cost of living in NJ is probably as high or higher than most of CA, except we have cheaper gas.

Don’t know about that, plugged two random cities, one in NJ the other in CA into a COL calculator and it says California is almost 18% more expensive.

What does your COL calculator include?

I spend well over $500 a month just to commute to work.

For what it’s worth, I just tried the Wallet Nerd COL calculator and compared my part of NJ with San Diego and it said CA was 28% less expensive.

[mobulis]

@Eagle-Keeper

@WuWei

@WuWei

This can’t be real.

Hard to say but there probably are a lot of well indoctrinated college kids with similar beliefs.

They have been taught that they are entitled and Sanders is playing to that.

Here’s the thing about liberals regarding education. Out of one side of their mouth they preach how the extent of course work in the liberal arts aspect of higher education is designed to make us more well rounded people and should not caught up in the cost. But then afterwards complain how many with such degrees can’t get good paying jobs.

Nope, sorry but I don’t do either of those.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@Eagle-Keeper

@Eagle-Keeper

This is essentially the message of liberalism, to blame others for the poor choices that you have made in life.

No it isn’t

What would Bernie say to the OP who has “around $100,000 in college debt to payback… with my human development & family studies degree.”?

You really think that he would say it is her fault for not choosing a degree path that offered and actual desired marketable skill?

[Eagle-Keeper]

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@Eagle-Keeper

@conan

If goverment didn’t back up those loans bankers wouldn’t be making em…high risk.
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Make the school pay the loan if the person doesn’t get a good paying job. That would dramatically change the system.

Bet the schools would eliminate certain degrees if that were the case.

Which would be a good thing.

[WildRose]

Yet hundreds of millions of poor people in the US managed to work themselves out of poverty starting with the inception of the country and did so with no gov’t programs.

When poverty hurts people figure a way out of it.

[mobulis]

@WildRose

Yet hundreds of millions of poor people in the US managed to work themselves out of poverty starting with the inception of the country and did so with no gov’t programs.

When poverty hurts people figure a way out of it.

And more did not.

[WildRose]

The facts show us otherwise. Most immigrants arriving in the US arrived with virtually nothing other than a work ethic.

The vast majority of them worked their way out of it.

[Toll_Collector]

@NJBob

I spend well over $500 a month just to commute to work.

Wow that is a lot. I spend maybe 100.

[WuWei]

The European system of "free college" isn't what many here thinks it is

And the current crop of ideas like Bernie’s would likely end up being very similar once they started looking at the numbers. Another unrealistic campaign promise from another political candidate, it’s par for the course. Trump did it, Obama did it, Bush did it, Clinton did it and right on down the line.

Good clarification.

[FloridaYankee]

@WildRose

Yet hundreds of millions of poor people in the US managed to work themselves out of poverty starting with the inception of the country and did so with no gov’t programs.

When poverty hurts people figure a way out of it.

It may have sounded like I was supporting the taxing of wealth which I am not just to get that out of the way. The truth is that most people find their way out of poverty, at least to some extent, it is a revolving door of sorts. That doesn’t mean we don’t need jobs training programs and such to help them along, there are a helluva lot of people that were never taught a damn thing in life that could do better with a little knowledge.